New Colorado law will give state's electoral college votes to national popular

[Smyrna]

I wonder if they’ll change their name to Colofornia?

[PhillyGuy]

@Ex-Pat

Yes, the founders were all knowing gods. In reality, they knew as much about how the world would be in 2020, as you know how it will be in 2220.

The Constitution can be amended. What’s the opposition to just doing so?

PhillyGuy

[PhillyGuy]

@MidwestIndy

And?

Kerry was a terrible candidate. He lost the popular vote, wasn’t gonna win the EC vote. I fail to see the problem here. Bush won the election and as history shows did an absolute horrible job as president to the point not even people on here will say otherwise.

You don’t because you want the winner always to be popular vote winner. But this proposal as stated is against any idea of what representative voting should be. If a state votes in favor of one candidate, it shouldn’t have that vote reversed in put in favor of another candidate because of what other states wanted.

If people want only the popular vote winner to win, then they should favor electoral votes being accorded proportionally.

PhillyGuy

[Guvnah]

@MidwestIndy

The SCOTUS has ruled previous that there are only two types of compacts require congressional consent.

1. Compacts that alter the balance of political power between the state and federal government; or
2. Compacts that intrude on a power reserved to Congress.

See Virginia vs Tennessee.

This (and your interpretation thereof, and your view of the compact with respect to the above) is your take on it all.

Argue with me all you want. I think we both know (yes, KNOW) that if the compact ever reaches the target participation, it will be challenged in court. I’m not the one who will file the challenge, so you’re wasting your time trying to tell me what will happen.

For the record, I expect that the compact will never get the requisite number of EVs in the first place to trigger court challenges in the first place.

[WildRose]

Then Amend it if you can.

[MidwestIndy]

@Guvnah

@MidwestIndy

The SCOTUS has ruled previous that there are only two types of compacts require congressional consent.

1. Compacts that alter the balance of political power between the state and federal government; or
2. Compacts that intrude on a power reserved to Congress.

See Virginia vs Tennessee.

This (and your interpretation thereof, and your view of the compact with respect to the above) is your take on it all.

Argue with me all you want. I think we both know (yes, KNOW) that if the compact ever reaches the target participation, it will be challenged in court. I’m not the one who will file the challenge, so you’re wasting your time trying to tell me what will happen.

For the record, I expect that the compact will never get the requisite number of EVs in the first place to trigger court challenges in the first place.

I have no doubt someone would file a court case, people do that all the time. My assertion is it would not be stopped by the court. As far as getting the required EVs, well only 89 more to go.

[biggestal99]

As I have said before NEVER is a long time.

Back in 2002 on the early Hannity forum.

“Same sex marriage will NEVER happen”

Things change over time.

Things that will “never” happen, happen all the time.

Allan

[biggestal99]

@PhillyGuy

You don’t because you want the winner always to be popular vote winner.

I do.

Allan

[Demon]

Well that’s ridiculous. We get people from all over, including Texas. Although, thankfully, the Texans haven’t turned us more conservative.

[Bomberfox]

They can already implement it now i also love people that have no argument try to act above the fray by saying “well it doesnt matter durr”

[Bomberfox]

So you dont have an argument and instead of admitting you have none, punt it.

[Guvnah]

@Bomberfox

They can already implement it now i also love people that have no argument try to act above the fray by saying “well it doesnt matter durr”

Please try to keep up:

@Guvnah

States could easily decide to allocate their EVs on their own (as Maine and Nebraska have done, for example.) The states that currently comprise the 180 EVs already signed on the Compacct could individually do it today (if they had the courage.)

[Guvnah]

@Bomberfox

So you dont have an argument and instead of admitting you have none, punt it.

Please try to keep up:

@Guvnah

And yes, it’s an ■■■■■■■ tactic commonly used by libs. “So you don’t have anything…” ( SPIT )

Always has been, and always will be. And I don’t play nicely with that.

[highroller]

Nevada just passed the law. There are 75 more votes to go.

As for constitutionality, these are just a laws passed at the state level. They’re not creating an additional level of government between the states. It’s just how they allocate their electoral votes to the winner. So, I think this would easily pass by the Supreme Court.

[FloridaYankee]

@MidwestIndy

@locksith0214

the votes in Colorado no longer matter they are moot… there are eleven states that have decided to give their electoral college votes to the national popular vote winner. When Shultz carves off 5 million votes , Trump will get electoral college votes he never had a prayer of winning

In the 2016 election, 6.5 million votes were cast for people not named Clinton or Trump. Even after all that Clinton still finished 1.3 million votes ahead of Trump, and that is even after the years of hearings she went through. And that was even with her being disliked as a candidate even by those in the Democrat party, particularly the Bernie bots.

Now put forth a likeable candidate and someone the democrats actually would actually vote for and that person will have no problems winning the national popular vote.

Indeed its gonna be the GOP who will not like this if it comes into fruition.

Or a more popular third party candidate that actually gets an appreciable number of democrat votes.

[FloridaYankee]

Ralph Nader got about 2.9 million votes in 96.

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Schultz will get less than 250,000 votes in the 2020 election.

It’s guaranteed.

3rd parties never do as well as hyped.

Allan
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