Nervous Nancy's dilemma

Maybe she hid them in her San Francisco mansion and forgot where she hid them.

Oh well.

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Funny thing is - Nancy learned this little trick from none other than Moscow Mitch, who sat on a SC nomination for almost a year on the Senate side. I recall saying then that Moscow Mitch was setting the precedent for the Democrats to do the same thing.

Now, in 2020, sure enough Nancy has taken the cue and run with it.

Running where with it? In circles? If boring the American people was her goal, she has succeeded.

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Politics always bores the majority of American people. Those of us on forums like this that actually enjoy politics are in the minority.

How do you think this plays out? What does she do with it?

Not sure exactly how it’s going to play out, but the end result is that he will be impeached but not convicted. There’s no way the R’s in the Senate are actually going to look at things like evidence. They’ll just vote on party lines.

Trump will have his acquittal, the dems will have the moral high ground, and both will claim victory during the 2020 campaign.

That is perfect.

Yep…she got back the Senate alright.

Nicely done!!

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So basically it’s a draw. Then she needs to quit fiddle farting around and be done with it.

Senate Republicans are going to have to vote on Trump’s National emergency declaration at least one more time before the 2020 election. Trump is making it very difficult for several of the GOP Senators up for re-election this year. Link

Nancy knows exactly what she is doing.

She missed one fine point. “Moscow Mitch” didn’t want the SC nomination to go through and Obama did. In this case, Nancy wants the impeachment conviction to go through and “Moscow Mitch” clearly does not. Therefore, “Moscow Mitch” is not really pressured to do anything.

There is no moral high ground in trying to overturn the results of an election over a matter, not of a high crime or misdemeanor, but of a disagreement over whether trying to initiate an investigation was appropriate. That should have been handled as a matter of debate, not a matter of impeachment for political gain.

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Again if there was one thing the founders certainly would have all agreed was impeachable…

Soliciting foreign governments to go after a political enemy to help win domestic elections…would be at the top.

An impeachment isn’t “overturning an election.” There is absolutely no way it would give the presidency to Hillary. I wish people would quit spouting that nonsense. An impeachment is the constitutional tool for sorting out accusations of wrongdoing with certain elected officials.

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However, if misused for political gain, an impeachment can be abuse of power, which I am told is an impeachable offense.
Yes, I know Congresspersons can’t be impeached for the same things they would impeach over.

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Impeachment for political gain…worth repeating.

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Don’t solicit foreign governments to target political enemies in order to win domestIc elections.

Worth repeating endlessly.

Not if the political genius left a trail of hryvnia from his VP post to his son’s bank account.

Candidates are not above scrutiny or the law.

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Doing you job is not synonymous with “soliciting” which sounds so dirty when you type it like that.

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Nope. Not the presidents job to personally target political enemies to be investigated by foreign governments. Period.

If he did something illegal, that would be the job of the DOJ. (He did not.)