Need help locating a citizenship quote…

Can’t find this quote anywhere so I’m seeing if anyone else remembers where it’s from.

Has to do with Natural Born Citizens but Google is flooded with other results when searching for it.

My paraphrasing of the quote is: “all people born in the country, to parents who are citizens thereof are also citizens, the natural born…” or something close to that.

Google keeps directing me to the 14th but that’s not it.

Sounds like a court citation. Probably from the summation.

For some reason the name “Vetter” keeps popping in mind, but nothing more at this time.

Your OP is confusing.

Could you lay out in more detail what you are looking to do with the information? That might help suggest an alternative search criterion.

Some lib on facebook is melting down claiming the constitution never defines what natural born means, and the Musk is going to push Vance out of the way and assume the presidency. :stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes:

I know the person is dumb, but it’s just driving me nuts that I can’t find that quote that I know exists.

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People are idiots :grinning:

Sounds like something from U.S. Code Title 8 - Aliens and Nationality

The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States at birth:
(a)a person born in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof;
(b)a person born in the United States to a member of an Indian, Eskimo, Aleutian, or other aboriginal tribe: Provided, That the granting of citizenship under this subsection shall not in any manner impair or otherwise affect the right of such person to tribal or other property;
(c)a person born outside of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents both of whom are citizens of the United States and one of whom has had a residence in the United States or one of its outlying possessions, prior to the birth of such person;
(d)a person born outside of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is a citizen of the United States who has been physically present in the United States or one of its outlying possessions for a continuous period of one year prior to the birth of such person, and the other of whom is a national, but not a citizen of the United States;
(e)a person born in an outlying possession of the United States of parents one of whom is a citizen of the United States who has been physically present in the United States or one of its outlying possessions for a continuous period of one year at any time prior to the birth of such person;
(f)a person of unknown parentage found in the United States while under the age of five years, until shown, prior to his attaining the age of twenty-one years, not to have been born in the United States;
(g)a person born outside the geographical limits of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is an alien, and the other a citizen of the United States who, prior to the birth of such person, was physically present in the United States or its outlying possessions for a period or periods totaling not less than five years, at least two of which were after attaining the age of fourteen years: Provided, That any periods of honorable service in the Armed Forces of the United States, or periods of employment with the United States Government or with an international organization as that term is defined in section 288 of title 22 by such citizen parent, or any periods during which such citizen parent is physically present abroad as the dependent unmarried son or daughter and a member of the household of a person (A) honorably serving with the Armed Forces of the United States, or (B) employed by the United States Government or an international organization as defined in section 288 of title 22, may be included in order to satisfy the physical-presence requirement of this paragraph. This proviso shall be applicable to persons born on or after December 24, 1952, to the same extent as if it had become effective in its present form on that date; and
(h)a person born before noon (Eastern Standard Time) May 24, 1934, outside the limits and jurisdiction of the United States of an alien father and a mother who is a citizen of the United States who, prior to the birth of such person, had resided in the United States.

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Article II, Section 1, Clause 5 states: “No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President…”

Doesn’t address the parents though.

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Justice Horace Gray in United States v. Wong Kim Ark (1898) referenced English common law, saying that, “natural-born subjects” were those born within the nation - regardless of parental status - but some interpretations, like those from Emer de Vattel’s Law of Nations, tie citizenship to both birth and parental citizenship.

Vattel wrote, “The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens.”

This isn’t in the Constitution itself but has been cited in debates about “natural born” status.

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8 U.S.C. § 1401 lays out specifics like a citizen parent’s prior U.S. residency, but these apply only to those born outside the U.S., not to the broader population of citizens.


Looks like I was wrong about it being defined, I could have sworn it was from an amendment or Wong Kim Ark or something.

But looks like I was probably remembering it from the old Obama debates and Vatells Law of Nations.

No federal court appears to have ever ruled that U.S. citizens as a whole, are defined as children of at least one U.S. citizen.

Citizenship comes via birth here (per the Fourteenth Amendment and Wong Kim Ark) or through parents under statutes shaped by cases like Nguyen and Bellei.

There is no single ruling mandating a citizen parent for all to be considered a natural born citizen.

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Could it be this?

“Citizenship can also be acquired through “jus sanguinis” (right of blood), meaning citizenship can be passed down to children if at least one of their parents is a U.S. citizen”.

I’m impressed.

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I’m not a fan of it, personally. I don’t like the idea of anchor babies.

I understand. It can be changed, but not by Trump.

Anchor babies aren’t really that big of a problem.

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Probably not. I’ve never met one anyway.

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