Nearly 1/2 of the nations Coronavirus cases are in NY

[WuWei]

@amadeus

@occu

There is plenty of blame to go around, but we have federal agencies that are specifically designed to handle this. The failure rests there, but remember, people will look for a scapegoat, trump’s tweets and statements will not age well.

Trump has no connection to humans. His only relationship is with his mirror. There will be a second wave.

All we can do is hope.

[amadeus]

@WuWei

@amadeus

@occu

There is plenty of blame to go around, but we have federal agencies that are specifically designed to handle this. The failure rests there, but remember, people will look for a scapegoat, trump’s tweets and statements will not age well.

Trump has no connection to humans. His only relationship is with his mirror. There will be a second wave.

All we can do is hope.

On that we agree. But wait, Sneaky, I thought emotions were not something you were enamored with. Not being snarky here. Just a thought.

[WuWei]

@amadeus

On that we agree. But wait, Sneaky, I thought emotions were not something you were enamored with. Not being snarky here. Just a thought.

Quote it.

[amadeus]

OK. I’m down with that.

[occu]

Who gets warnings first? The governor of new orleans or the president?

[Toll_Collector]

@occu

Who gets warnings first? The governor of new orleans or the president?

Governors are technically Presidents of their own states. No excuses. What if there was no federal government? Then they’d have no mother to cry to.

[Samm]

@Phaedrus

@WildRose

In case you haven’t noticed the president has declared a national emergency

Yes, I noticed. Hence my post.

You should probably read others’ posts all the way through before replying. Save you some embarrassment.

I love irony.

[RTchoke]

@occu

Who gets warnings first? The governor of new orleans or the president?

Who bitches first and loudest when the President makes a decision based on that information?

I don’t remember everybody cheering when he suggested closing down borders and travel. Instead I heard a lot of bitching and whining.

Governors, Mayors etc. are leaders of their states and towns. If they have to constantly be looking for someone else to tell them what to do in order to do their job and look after their citizens, maybe you need to be looking for different leaders at that level because what you seem to have is “followers” in charge.

[WuWei]

Can y’all see the recovered data by state on worldometer?

[Samm]

@WuWei

@occu

Flash floods and yearly rainfall. Flash floods will overwhelm storm sewers, flood homes, cause all sorts of damages.

The yearly rainfall will be a larger number, but because of the gradual amount, the storm sewers can handle it.

Let’s pretend

1. Everybody has to be hospitalized.
2. Everybody needs a ventilator.
3. Everybody is sick in every area.
4. New ventilators weren’t already being made every day.
5. Nobody is recovering at all.

TRUMP!!!

You could bet on it.

[occu]

Correct my mistake.

[Samm]

@RTchoke

@occu

@RTchoke

Then why is the Mayor pissing and whining and blaming Trump for not telling her to shut Mardi Gras down?

Can she not figure that one out on her own? How do you seriously stress social distancing while allowing that ■■■■ show to continue?

Good Grief.

There were all sorts of events still going on. My point was that this snuck up on a doctor as well, he admitted it to our family.

But I’m curious, who do you think has better access to information and is able to make decisions on that information? The mayor of new Orleans or the president?

By all means, continue to blame Trump for this. Just like all the other state officials who for months continued to tell people to go out and do what they normally do, eat out, go watch that shows, etc.

I’m tired of hindsight being used to beat people over the head when they were also the ones who treated this as no big deal at the same time.

WHO didn’t declare COVID-19 a pandemic until March 11th, but that apparently is not an excuse for Trump to not act by ordering New Orleans to cancel the Mardi Gras in mid February. Can you imagine the screeching of protest from the Mayor had he done so?

[occu]

@Samm

WHO didn’t declare COVID-19 a pandemic until March 11th, but that apparently is not an excuse for Trump to not act by ordering New Orleans to cancel the Mardi Gras in mid February. Can you imagine the screeching of protest from the Mayor had he done so?

I never made that arguement. But comparing responses with nations like South Korea, with where we are now, trump would have proven to be right.

But that is neither here nor there, my original point was about a doctor in new orleans who admitted this virus surprised him.

[WuWei]

@occu

Correct my mistake.

Delete my post.

[JayJay]

a) The problem doesn’t grow in a linear fashion because of health care constraints

b) From your stats, 2.3% of diagnosed flu cases require hospitalization. Whereas 15% of diagnosed COVID cases require hospitalization. COVID is therefore 5x more likely to require hospitalization than flu

c) Mean length of hospital stay for flu is 5.3 days. Mean length of stay for COVID patients is 7.0 days. When you factor in the 5x hospitalization, that is a lot of extra hospital bed-days difference.

d) Primary pneumonia is a regular outcome of COVID…it is not for flu…bacterial pneumonia is…which is one reason why so many more need hospitalization.

e) You’re comparing rates of flu where we do BAU with rates of COVID where we have promoted active major interventions to prevent the spread. Not an apples to apples comparison.

[WuWei]

@occu

@Samm

WHO didn’t declare COVID-19 a pandemic until March 11th, but that apparently is not an excuse for Trump to not act by ordering New Orleans to cancel the Mardi Gras in mid February. Can you imagine the screeching of protest from the Mayor had he done so?

I never made that arguement. But comparing responses with nations like South Korea, with where we are now, trump would have proven to be right.

But that is neither here nor there, my original point was about a doctor in new orleans who admitted this virus surprised him.

[WildRose]

@occu

Flash floods and yearly rainfall. Flash floods will overwhelm storm sewers, flood homes, cause all sorts of damages.

The yearly rainfall will be a larger number, but because of the gradual amount, the storm sewers can handle it.

No if they could handle it there would be no flooding and storm sewer systems would never get torn out from being overwhelmed and then have to be replaced.

[WuWei]

@JayJay

a) The problem doesn’t grow in a linear fashion because of health care constraints

Yes, it does. In fact flu patients are one of the problems in NYC.

@JayJay

From your stats, 2.3% of diagnosed flu cases require hospitalization. Whereas 15% of diagnosed COVID cases require hospitalization. COVID is therefore 5x more likely to require hospitalization than flu

Do they? Why?

@JayJay

Mean length of hospital stay for flu is 5.3 days. Mean length of stay for COVID patients is 7.0 days. When you factor in the 5x hospitalization, that is a lot of extra hospital bed-days difference.

Is it? Why?

@JayJay

Primary pneumonia is a regular outcome of COVID…it is not for flu…bacterial pneumonia is…which is one reason why so many more need hospitalization.

If it is an outcome of China Virus, how is it primary?

You’re comparing rates of flu where we do BAU with rates of COVID where we have promoted active major interventions to prevent the spread. Not an apples to apples comparison.

And that may be the problem

[WildRose]

In normal times the average American has less than 30 days consumables in there home.

They not only ran out for years worth of toilet paper but they clean the shelves of all the drinking water most of the canned goods and all the fresh meat they could lay their hands on and continue to do so.

Walk into the grocery store today look around how does it compare to what you saw in the same store on the 1st of January?

This is all due to panic

[WildRose]

If we could shut down all nonessential travel in early January and at the same time but everyone returning to the US from any infected country there would have been no pandemic in the United States.

If we had done so at the time which was vehement Lee opposed by the UN the CDC and virtually every other government on Earth we would not be a new 4 5 6 10 trillion dollars in dead at the end of this period

If we had done so we would have maybe a few hundred deaths at most by the time this virus and run its course.

Instead we listen to the International Community we didn’t do what was necessary at the time and by the end of January people in the United States were starting to panic because the pandemic was consuming the globe while the World Health Organization still wouldn’t even admit there was a damn pandemic to start with.