I never said republicans target poor whites. They don’t. Republican economic policies are geared primarily for the upper middle class.
Democrats aren’t any better. You’re trying to make it out like I support democrats and nothing could be farther from the truth. I despise democrats more than republicans for the most part.
Culture plays a huge role.
A culture of poverty breeds unreasonable expectations and irresponsible living.
But not everyone in poverty subscribes to that culture. They are honestly trying to get out. Those are the ones I want to help with job programs, vocational training programs, childcare allowances (so that hard working single mothers can afford to go to school) etc. Not a blank welfare check. That method doesn’t work and we have forty years to show that it hasn’t.
It’s very difficult. I don’t envy their situation and I was blessed to have a middle class upbringing. We weren’t rich but I never wanted for the necessities.
“I find myself once again in the same position as President Obama. We both opposed reparations and we both are the descendants of slave-holders.”–Mitch McConnell
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I agree and will add this; what many attribute to race or racism is actually culture conflict. Maybe it always was. There will be those who disagree of course, but it happened a lot - the diminishing of humanity or feeling of superiority or however you want to describe it. They did it to Asians, Indians, almost everybody. Hell, the Irish, the Welsh. Still do. This need to feel superior is very powerful.
How do you distinguish who is honestly trying to get out?
“The Great Society” vs “Make America Great Again”
which one emphasizes americans and their willingness for hard work vs mother harvard govt teat?
The people who are holding down a job, not getting wrote up at their work, doing their best to make ends meet. Only taking hand outs when they absolutely have to. Those who show a desire to better theirselves and get out of the trap.
I don’t know if they’re the majority or the minority. But they exist.
That’s precisely why I’m opposed to blanket welfare payouts.
“Welfare” as I see it should be tools to help those with the desire to get out of the trap to get out of the trap. Not stay in it.
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Slavery and Jim Crow… mainly
It’s generational…
the rate was much lower during those times.
so wrongo bongo
spin the wheel, pick another stupid meme
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No, that’s being human.
But no matter how you spin it, reparations will not do what you seem to believe it would. The only thing it would accomplish would be to widen the divide between the races, perhaps irreparablely.
It was much higher than the white population though. So he has a point.
The collective trauma of family separation during slavery may have had an influence on African American culture in regards to familial stability.
You have to remember, black American culture is unique in that it was created nearly from scratch. The slave owning class made it a point to destroy all ties the slaves had to their African roots while simultaneously excluding them from integrating into white society. So they built an entirely new culture in the new world.
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What specifically do you mean by “abandoned blacks”? Are you suggesting that blacks are not as capable as whites and, therefore, require special considerations not available to other races? That sounds like the eugenics theory of the 1920 and 30s and the “benevolent racist” ideas (they need our guidance like children do) of the ‘50s and early ‘60s.
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Conservatives understand it better than liberals. That’s what Mitch Romney was talking about when he was secretly recorded saying “no matter what we do, 47% of the people will never vote for us.”
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A more meaningful question for each of those questions is why is it higher than Asians? Asian’s beginnings in this country are not significantly different than the experience of blacks following emancipation.
Well that is incorrect. Romney making a statement like this doesn’t confirm the statement itself.
The empirical evidence that’s backs up why the so called 47% that would never vote GOP has no factual basis in identity politics as you think of it.
Are you prepared to provide proof that say a black person would never vote GOP when asked the question of whether they would vote for a GOP candidate because that candidate was white, and that the reason that person thought they weren’t incapable of supporting black causes was because of they were white?
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Maybe you missed this part of RedComet’s post:
“Sometimes it’s race, sometimes it’s faith, sometimes it’s ideology.”
Doesnt change what I said in the least bit. Your contention was conservatives understand this better than liberals. I used just the first part of that because it was first. Do I need to illustrate how that isnt true in the other two cases?
Trying to pretend one stands above the other is amusing at best. It was a stupid contention of fact. It was a poor use of a failed candidates assertion to emphasize it. About this point is when a somewhat logical or better person realizes that cant make such a point logically in any way. It would be much better for someone to just state they think rather than some concrete easily disprovable statement put out as some sort of fact.
Romney said the same sort of crap that is often repeated around here. Whoopty do.
Sorry, I meant to say working people. She was a candidate that most working people didn’t want. Which is why so many blue states flipped. Of course California can always be counted on to bring in the popular vote. But normal people wanted nothing to do with the witch.
