Nazi's in New York and Palestine

[johnwk2]

@Jezcoe

@TheRedComet

They could have had a state. But nope. They wanted to pull the Second Intifada instead.

How long is that going to be used to continue State oppression? Should we have at least a couple of generations born in Gaza before they can try again?

How about Oppression inflicted upon the Palestine people living in Gaza by Humas, the ruling body?

[conan]

@komobu

I find it interesting that the Left supports Hate Speech laws, but love hate speech itself, if it comes from their chosen groups.

Only libs are allowed to hate…

[johnwk2]

@TheRedComet

They could just not act like savages, stop supporting trash like Hamas, and elect some sane leadership willing to actually negotiate some real peace. And hell just openly recognizing Israel’s right to exist would probably move them forward a bit.

Let us not forget the elections are rigged by and for Hamas.

[Jezcoe]

@TheRedComet

If Gazans had any real sense, they’d recognize that Hamas has brought most of their suffering on them, rise up, grab the Hamas leadership, and hang them from street lights in Gaza City.

At this point… what does the average Palestinian have to lose?

Isn’t it understandable why they would support Hamas after generations being forced to live in Gaza?

More violence isn’t going to stop this.

More violence is what is going to happen… but it won’t solve anything.

[Jezcoe]

@TheRedComet

They could just not act like savages, stop supporting trash like Hamas, and elect some sane leadership willing to actually negotiate some real peace. And hell just openly recognizing Israel’s right to exist would probably move them forward a bit.

It is funny that you think that Gaza operates as a democracy.

[TheRedComet]

Their children for one thing. Any chances of their own state is another.

[TheRedComet]

It doesn’t.

But Hamas got to its position back in 2007 through popular Palestinian support. They chose literal terrorists over Fatah. Fatah has and had its own problems, but they weren’t terrorists. They were reformed terrorists.

[Jezcoe]

@TheRedComet

It doesn’t.

But Hamas got to its position back in 2007 through popular Palestinian support. They chose literal terrorists over Fatah. Fatah has and had its own problems, but they weren’t terrorists. They were reformed terrorists.

Okay that last sentence is funny.

[TheRedComet]

That’s what they were. They were the former PLO. Reformed terrorists are a thing. Nelson Mandela was a reformed terrorist.

[Oryx]

@Jezcoe

More violence isn’t going to stop this.

Easy to say from your apartment in New York. How would you respond if this happened in your neighborhood? Would you tell your family and friends that more violence would be counterproductive?

Efrat said she was taken to the yard of an elderly resident, who was handcuffed to her caregiver.

Efrat was also handcuffed, from behind in a “very hard, very painful” way, she said, adding that all those in the yard were instructed to remain silent.

One of the militants then brought a toddler to the yard, with Efrat saying she was afraid they would shoot him because he was trying to run away.

Another child, about eight years old, arrived with his mother, who appeared to have sustained a gunshot wound to the abdomen, Efrat said.

According to Efrat, the mother told them that Hamas fighters had shot her husband, and that her three-month-old baby had also been fatally shot in the head.

Israeli woman describes being rescued by the IDF from Hamas fighters who took...

[Jezcoe]

@TheRedComet

That’s what they were. They were the former PLO. Reformed terrorists are a thing. Nelson Mandela was a reformed terrorist.

Oh… I know…. And so was the IRA.

It just gave me laugh given this conversation… that’s all.

[Jezcoe]

@Oryx

@Jezcoe

More violence isn’t going to stop this.

Easy to say from your apartment in New York. How would you respond if this happened in your neighborhood? Would you tell your family and friends that more violence would be counterproductive?

Efrat said she was taken to the yard of an elderly resident, who was handcuffed to her caregiver.

Efrat was also handcuffed, from behind in a “very hard, very painful” way, she said, adding that all those in the yard were instructed to remain silent.

One of the militants then brought a toddler to the yard, with Efrat saying she was afraid they would shoot him because he was trying to run away.

Another child, about eight years old, arrived with his mother, who appeared to have sustained a gunshot wound to the abdomen, Efrat said.

According to Efrat, the mother told them that Hamas fighters had shot her husband, and that her three-month-old baby had also been fatally shot in the head.

Israeli woman describes being rescued by the IDF from Hamas fighters who took her hostage and massacred her village

Hamas are terrorist butchers and should rot in hell.

More violence is not going to stop future violence from happening

[Steel-W0LF]

@Jezcoe

@Steel-W0LF

@Jezcoe

@TheRedComet

Or just keep shooting the terrorists in the back of the head as they arise. That’s also a good plan.

Violence has never solved it.

The only thing that solves it diplomacy.

Diplomacy doesn’t work without the threat or use of violence. Either by you, or against you.

Diplomacy will only work if both parties believe that not killing each other is better than killing each other.

I don’t think that either party has been at the not killing each other phase for a while… nor will they anytime soon.

No. That’s not how humans work.

[Nemesis]

@Zippy

@Nemesis

We can go on forever with why questions.

I agree. I am just attempting to understand where you came up with this idea that there are no peoples hostile towards the US living in the US. Or this idea that no hostiles have come across the border illegally over the last 3 years.

Is it happy thoughts, wishful thinking, magic 8 ball, or is there actually something solid you can point to that has convinced you that there is no threat and no bad people in the US?

I do think there are people in the US who are hostile to us and want to harm America. Cells and sleeper agents are here but what I do not believe is that there are thousands of such individuals or groups. That was the oroginal comment I was referring to.

[Nemesis]

@johnwk2

@Nemesis

@Zippy

@Nemesis

Sorry but I just find it hard to believe there are thousands of active terrorists in the US.

And you base this upon………?

Because we would have had more terrorist attacks in this country, the longer these cells sit around doing nothing the more chance they have for exposure.

Your above speculation is absurd, considering a terrorist attack, as just occured, may take up to a year and even longer to plan and execute.

Stop making crap up.

JWK

The Democrat Party Leadership is not content with having turned NYC into a rat, garbage and crime infested ■■■■■■■■■ It has now saw fit to include in its infestation tens of thousands of poverty-stricken, poorly educated, low skilled, diseased, disabled, and criminal, illegal entrant foreign nationals.

So if since 9/11 thousands of terrorists have flooded into the US why have they not yet attacked?

Of course there are terrorists here what I am saying is that its not thousands and we are not suddenly under a new threat or a threat from hamas here in the USA.

[Oryx]

@Jezcoe

More violence is not going to stop future violence from happening

Human nature is violent and we’ll never escape that. But that doesn’t mean we should turn the other cheek to the most violent animals among us in the naive hope that it will keep us safe. You want less violence in Israel and Gaza? Destroying Hamas is a good step toward that goal.

“The smell when you step into a shelter is kind of what hits you first,” Robertson told Tapper, adding that people had sought refuge in these shelters when Hamas attacked.

“And you realize that this stuff on the floor is what you fear it is,” Robertson added. “It’s blood, and you realize in an instant, looking at the strewn shell casings on the floor, looking at the bullet holes in the concrete in front of you, and you can understand what happened.”

“Hamas had gone in there with guns and quite literally shot them in calculated, cold blood as they were cowering there on the floor,” Robertson said. “And the blood’s on the wall, and the blood’s on the ceiling, and the bullet holes are in the concrete wall.”

A CNN correspondent choked up on air describing the bloodstained walls and...

[Jezcoe]

@Steel-W0LF

@Jezcoe

@Steel-W0LF

@Jezcoe

@TheRedComet

Or just keep shooting the terrorists in the back of the head as they arise. That’s also a good plan.

Violence has never solved it.

The only thing that solves it diplomacy.

Diplomacy doesn’t work without the threat or use of violence. Either by you, or against you.

Diplomacy will only work if both parties believe that not killing each other is better than killing each other.

I don’t think that either party has been at the not killing each other phase for a while… nor will they anytime soon.

No. That’s not how humans work.

Really? Since when? When has continued violence stopped the violence without diplomacy finally ending it?

[Jezcoe]

@Oryx

@Jezcoe

More violence is not going to stop future violence from happening

Human nature is violent and we’ll never escape that. But that doesn’t mean we should turn the other cheek to the most violent animals among us in the naive hope that it will keep us safe. You want less violence in Israel and Gaza? Destroying Hamas is a good step toward that goal.

“The smell when you step into a shelter is kind of what hits you first,” Robertson told Tapper, adding that people had sought refuge in these shelters when Hamas attacked.

“And you realize that this stuff on the floor is what you fear it is,” Robertson added. “It’s blood, and you realize in an instant, looking at the strewn shell casings on the floor, looking at the bullet holes in the concrete in front of you, and you can understand what happened.”

“Hamas had gone in there with guns and quite literally shot them in calculated, cold blood as they were cowering there on the floor,” Robertson said. “And the blood’s on the wall, and the blood’s on the ceiling, and the bullet holes are in the concrete wall.”

A CNN correspondent choked up on air describing the bloodstained walls and floors of a bunker where people were shot 'in calculated, cold blood' by Hamas militants

I have all the faith in the human ability to kill each other.

[STODR]

Tell me who is doing it now that affects those born after 2000 and who else did I mention in post you responded too?

[STODR]

How often in last 100 years has violence forced or led too diplomacy to end it?