Musk's peace plan

[JayJay]

@SixFoot

@Supreme_War_Pig

We didn’t ask them to go. Those mercenaries bought their ticket, now they take their ride.

@JayJay

Those Americans went of their own free will.

That’s the spirit! Just like cons did with Soldiers coming back with PTSD! The forked tongue always spits when it speaks.

Why should we treat mercenaries like regular army?

Regular army has to go where its government (surrogates for we the people) send it.

Mercenaries do not.

Instead of insulting, explain why we should treat them the same.

[Supreme_War_Pig]

@Bill.in.PA

Putin was a valued ally not so long ago. Now he is evil incarnate according to the same people.

I don’t know about evil incarnate, but Russia has launched multiple attacks against us and our allies.

@Bill.in.PA

The US government and its allies in the media have been more than happy to do u-turns when required for propaganda purposes

Well duh. But also, there was no U-turn here. We have been on the outs with Russia for a while now.

[SixFoot]

“Give us our fantasy fix! ■■■■ the people giving it to us!”

[Jezcoe]

@TommyLucchese

We should definitely take Musk seriously. After all he just tweeted that buying Twitter would maybe advance his “X app,” the app that does everything. Lol

So for those keeping score, after this searing piece of geopolitical analysis, he’s claiming to currently be inventing an operating system with a web browser.

Did you see the latest Tesla bot demo?

The only good thing is that at least it wasn’t a guy in a robot suit this time.

[JayJay]

@JayJay

@Bill.in.PA

Putin was a valued ally not so long ago. Now he is evil incarnate according to the same people.

The US government and its allies in the media have been more than happy to do u-turns when required for propaganda purposes.

When was Putin a “valued ally”?

Seriously…he’s been adversarial from the second he took over for Yeltsin.

The peace plan is actually not horrible with one glaring exception…plebiscites in the occupied territories.

That is utterly ridiculous. Russia needs to get out, and then longer term discussions about “their security interests” can begin.

Like Biden wanted to do from the beginning.

[TommyLucchese]

@Jezcoe

Did you see the latest Tesla bot demo?

The only good thing is that at least it wasn’t a guy in a robot suit this time.

Jesus I forgot about the fake robot. Whatever happened to Neuralink?

But the all time best is when Musk tweeted that he was lonely or some ■■■■ and then had to delete it because thousands of crypto bros were replying “I’m not gay but I’ll take care of that for you if you want.”

[Jezcoe]

@TommyLucchese

Jesus I forgot about the fake robot. Whatever happened to Neuralink?

Killed a bunch of monkeys with no further results last I saw.

@TommyLucchese

But the all time best is when Musk tweeted that he was lonely or some ■■■■ and then had to delete it because thousands of crypto bros were replying “I’m not gay but I’ll take care of that for you if you want.”

The worship of that guy is just too weird.

[Bill.in.PA]

Yes, boundaries established under the Soviet Union are sacred unless they are inconvenient to US interests.

NATO expansion since 1990 has been in violation of agreements made with Gorbachev to allow the re-unification of Germany as member of NATO.

[Jezcoe]

@Bill.in.PA

Yes, boundaries established under the Soviet Union are sacred unless they are inconvenient to US interests.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/45/History_of_NATO_enlargement.svg/972px-History_of_NATO_enlargement.svg.png

The Soviet Union hasn’t existed for decades.

[TommyLucchese]

@Jezcoe

The worship of that guy is just too weird.

Like if he really was doing the Edison thing I can kind of see it, but this dude is so obviously fake. And he’s promised like twenty world shaking changes in tech in the last decade and still hasn’t solved his cars exploding when they go through big puddles. Let alone anything else.

[TommyLucchese]

@Jezcoe

The Soviet Union hasn’t existed for decades.

Thirty years this New Year’s Eve I believe.

[TommyLucchese]

@TommyLucchese

Like if he really was doing the Edison thing I can kind of see it, but this dude is so obviously fake. And he’s promised like twenty world shaking changes in tech in the last decade and still hasn’t solved his cars exploding when they go through big puddles. Let alone anything else.

I’m being unfair, SpaceX did manage to reach the lofty heights of matching NASA in the mid to late 50s by sending a rocket just outside the atmosphere. So that’s something.

[zantax]

@TommyLucchese

@TommyLucchese

Like if he really was doing the Edison thing I can kind of see it, but this dude is so obviously fake. And he’s promised like twenty world shaking changes in tech in the last decade and still hasn’t solved his cars exploding when they go through big puddles. Let alone anything else.

I’m being unfair, SpaceX did manage to reach the lofty heights of matching NASA in the mid to late 50s by sending a rocket just outside the atmosphere. So that’s something.

Clueless, Musk dropped the price per pound to get things into space by an order of magnitude and is poised to do it again.

[STODR]

He is also supplying internet for free in the Hurricane area. He had to move some orbits to do that. That is not cheap.

[TommyLucchese]

@zantax

Clueless, Musk dropped the price per pound to get things into space by an order of magnitude and is poised to do it again.

Yeah that’s some ■■■■ that gets you into the history books. More efficient engines? Seventy years later? With computers that can do more than dozens of calculations a second? Crazy.

[zantax]

@STODR

He is also supplying internet for free in the Hurricane area. He had to move some orbits to do that. That is not cheap.

Supplying internet to Ukraine as well.

[TommyLucchese]

@STODR

He is also supplying internet for free in the Hurricane area. He had to move some orbits to do that. That is not cheap.

He’s also giving away free access to Ukraine and by free I mean the US government is paying him to do it and he’s still pretending he’s doing it out of charity.

[zantax]

@TommyLucchese

@zantax

Clueless, Musk dropped the price per pound to get things into space by an order of magnitude and is poised to do it again.

Yeah that’s some ■■■■ that gets you into the history books. More efficient engines? Seventy years later? With computers that can do more than dozens of calculations a second? Crazy.

lol, what’s the big deal? hilarious.

[Bill.in.PA]

Yes, but the US is fighting a proxy war to enforce the Soviet Union’s internal border between the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic and the Russian Soviet Socialist Republic.

At the same time, we continue to ignore borders on NATO expansion established between the US and Soviet Union in 1990.

Soviet borders are sacred in one case and irrelevant in the other.

[JayJay]

You need to read up on your history, Not even Gorbachev viewed the “not one inch” line from Baker as a promise to never extend NATO.

You need to learn that Yeltsin shelling the Russian Parliament and prosecuting a brutal war against Chechnya killed the Partnership for Peace by giving the NATO expansionists in the West the upper hand.

Your willingness to blame the West for all the issues facing us today, rather than seeing it as both Russia and the West pursuing avenues that killed the post-Cold War thaw raises serious doubts that you are “pro-American”…or in any ways objective.

It wasn’t that the Soviet boundaries were sacred…it was that this was the boundary agreed to in the 1991 USSR dissolution. This was the boundary Russia swore it would never violate in the 1994 agreement where Ukraine surrendered the only thing that could have protected it against an aggressive power on its borders…its nuclear weapons.

Putin committed an act of aggression. You never want to mention that.

Interesting that you never want to mention that.

And Ukraine was not “neutral” under Yanukovytch. You want to argue we shouldn’t have meddled in the Euromaidan? That’s a discussion we can have. But let’s start from an honest starting point…Ukraine was not “neutral” under Yanukovytch.

And let’s be honest about how the only difference there would have been if NATO hadn’t expanded is Russia would have, and NATO would still be butting up against Russia’s borders.

This isn’t about NATO expansionism. It’s about how Putin thinks the dissolution of the USSR was wrong and he wants to restore it (well he wants to restore the Russian Empire).

He has ADMITTED this!