Musk Tells Gates to Get Lost in Leaked Text Messages

[zantax]

@tnt

He said no realities virus has been eradicated.

When small pox was brought up he complained about the length of time it took

That is moving the goal posts.

First goal was eradicated.

Second was, quickly.

Umm I never said no virus has been eradicated. We managed to do it twice, smallpox in humans and rinderpest in ruminants.

[tnt]

@zantax

It is impossible, it’s in animal populations for one thing, then add in asymptomatic rates and a leaky vaccine, nope, not remotely possible.

@zantax

Umm I never said no virus has been eradicated. We managed to do it twice, smallpox in humans and rinderpest in ruminants.

What did you mean by impossible then?

[Samm]

@tnt

He said no realities virus has been eradicated.

When small pox was brought up he complained about the length of time it took

That is moving the goal posts.

First goal was eradicated.

Second was, quickly.

That’s not a goalpost move. The time element is fundamental to controlling this virus. Will you find it acceptable if it takes 180 years to effectively eradicate COVID as a threat to humanity?

It is also worth noting that the smallpox virus has not been eradicated. It has been contained, but as more and more people are no longer inculcated, if it breaks free (it remains dormant but as virulent as ever in the corpses of many long dead victims) it could quickly again become the scourge it once was.

[Samm]

@zantax

@tnt

He said no realities virus has been eradicated.

When small pox was brought up he complained about the length of time it took

That is moving the goal posts.

First goal was eradicated.

Second was, quickly.

Umm I never said no virus has been eradicated. We managed to do it twice, smallpox in humans and rinderpest in ruminants.

The smallpox virus has not been eradicated. I don’t know about rinderpest … but I doubt it.

[Jezcoe]

@Samm

@zantax

@tnt

He said no realities virus has been eradicated.

When small pox was brought up he complained about the length of time it took

That is moving the goal posts.

First goal was eradicated.

Second was, quickly.

Umm I never said no virus has been eradicated. We managed to do it twice, smallpox in humans and rinderpest in ruminants.

The smallpox virus has not been eradicated. I don’t know about rinderpest … but I doubt it.

Smallpox exists only in labs. It is no longer in the wild.

Polio is almost gone… but anti vaxxers keep on stymying the efforts.

[Samm]

That is not true. Smallpox virus has been found still viable in the corpses of the dead right here in the State of Alaska.

And there are new cases of Polio nearly every year which have absolutely nothing to do with "anti-vaxxers.

[Jezcoe]

@Samm

That is not true. Smallpox virus has been found still viable in the corpses of the dead right here in the State of Alaska.

Long frozen dead people are not the most active of vectors.

@Samm

And there are new cases of Polio nearly every year which have absolutely nothing to do with "anti-vaxxers.

it does… the global polio vaccination program has seen success in it’s grasp several times only to have it fail.

[Samm]

@Jezcoe

@Samm

That is not true. Smallpox virus has been found still viable in the corpses of the dead right here in the State of Alaska.

Long frozen dead people are not the most active of vectors.

It is still a potential source of infection outside of the lab. And with frozen bodies oozing out of the thawing permafrost, it’s not beyond the realm of possibility. The virus is still with us whether you fear it or not.

@Jezcoe

@Samm

And there are new cases of Polio nearly every year which have absolutely nothing to do with "anti-vaxxers.

it does… the global polio vaccination program has seen success in it’s grasp several times only to have it fail.

None of which had to do with anti-vaxxers.

[tnt]

@Samm

That’s not a goalpost move. The time element is fundamental to controlling this virus. Will you find it acceptable if it takes 180 years to effectively eradicate COVID as a threat to humanity?

It is also worth noting that the smallpox virus has not been eradicated. It has been contained, but as more and more people are no longer inculcated, if it breaks free (it remains dormant but as virulent as ever in the corpses of many long dead victims) it could quickly again become the scourge it once was.

That’s all well and good, but in the context of the discussion, it was not brought up until his point was refuted. Therefore, it is a goal post move.

[Samm]

No it’s not. You just didn’t like the time element being brought into it, when in fact, time is an essential … even inescapable … element when dealing with a vaccine to fight a virus.

[tnt]

@Samm

No it’s not. You just didn’t like the time element being brought into it, when in fact, time is an essential … even inescapable … element when dealing with a vaccine to fight a virus.

i don’t disagree.

this is a semantic argument.

If time is a concern, say it up front. Other wise you are moving the goal post.

[Samm]

No it’s not. (You really ought to review the meaning of that word … it doesn’t mean what you seem to think it does.) And you don’t get to set the rules for the order of discussion. Time is always an element of any situation. It’s ever existing … it never stops … it doesn’t have to be mentioned up front to be a part of a discussion.

[zantax]

@tnt

@zantax

It is impossible, it’s in animal populations for one thing, then add in asymptomatic rates and a leaky vaccine, nope, not remotely possible.

@zantax

Umm I never said no virus has been eradicated. We managed to do it twice, smallpox in humans and rinderpest in ruminants.

What did you mean by impossible then?

I meant for this type of virus, obviously.

[tnt]

@Samm

No it’s not. (You really ought to review the meaning of that word … it doesn’t mean what you seem to think it does.) And you don’t get to set the rules for the order of discussion. Time is always an element of any situation. It’s ever existing … it never stops … it doesn’t have to be mentioned up front to be a part of a discussion.

Me: there has never been someone who threw more than 5700 strike outs.

You: Nolan Ryan.

Me: He played in the 70-90’s.

Moving the goal posts?

[tnt]

@zantax

I meant for this type of virus, obviously.

You said respiratory virus.

Small pox is a respiratory virus.

In what way is the coronavirus specifically different?

[zantax]

@tnt

@zantax

I meant for this type of virus, obviously.

You said respiratory virus.

Small pox is a respiratory virus.

In what way is the coronavirus specifically different?

Obviously didn’t read the thread. A. only infected humans B. vaccine stopped infection probably a c and a d as well but it’s late and I don’t care that much. Bottom line, we stopped two and it took 182 years to stop the human one. Eradicating covid is nonsense, something only the stupidity of communist China should be embracing because it’s consistent with their utter indifference to their ctizens suffering.

[Samm]

@tnt

@Samm

No it’s not. (You really ought to review the meaning of that word … it doesn’t mean what you seem to think it does.) And you don’t get to set the rules for the order of discussion. Time is always an element of any situation. It’s ever existing … it never stops … it doesn’t have to be mentioned up front to be a part of a discussion.

Me: there has never been someone who threw more than 5700 strike outs.

You: Nolan Ryan.

Me: He played in the 70-90’s.

Moving the goal posts?

Nope. It’s just off point.

Why are you so desperate to convince me that @zantax moved the goalposts?

[zantax]

I have an obscure acronym, plf