Encouraged distancing from the start, prioritized test kits, not attacked the medical community and governors, not encouraged LIBERATE MICHIGAN, not said it would go away soon like a miracle…Doing better than Trump in this scenario is a very very very low bar.

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Nobody cares if you takeTrump supporters seriously. We don’t need your approval to win. But you do seem to take Shifty seriously. Sooooooooooo…

What exactly are the great things Shifty believes that Pence would have done? Any idea?

That’s what Shifty says that Pence would have done? That would have saved tens
of thousands? Can you provide a link?

You keep pushing the posts out dude. Schiff didn’t say less than 3,000 people overall would be dead if Trump had been removed. He didn’t say he thought Pence would have done “great” things. You asked for my ideas, I gave them. Now you want a link that proves my ideas? I don’t ■■■■■■■ know what Adam Schiff thinks or what he would think if he heard your question. Your OP (on par) is predicated on the lie that Adam Schiff said that less than 3000 people in the US would have died from the virus if Trump had been removed. Everything else you’re extrapolating from that lie is a waste of time.

You asked how Pence or anyone could have done better than Trump has done. The answer is simple because Trump did almost everything wrong. We’d be better off in this crisis without him. Full stop.

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Yes, it probably would have, but perhaps somewhat later. People couldn’t stay in lockdown forever.

Millions of people were always going to get infected. The goal of distancing is to keep us from all getting infected at the same time and overwhelming the system.

I was laughing at you and ventilators.

Nobody died because they didn’t get a ventilator - Cuomo.

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Still? We did that already.

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Totally incorrect. I am asking why Shifty believes things would have been much better under Pence. I am not asking you to answer for him. If he is going to make that claim he should have an idea of what Pence would have done.

Do you think Pence told him? Or is this more Shifty being Shifty? Mental disorder.

Good lord. Trump is doing the worst job we could have imagined. Anyone would have done better. That’s all that’s being communicated here. Now you’re taking a soundbite and placing your own goalposts onto what you think he should have said or thought. Do you not see how absurd that is? I’m bored with this thread. Bye.

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“Promises made, promises kept.”

Gavin Newsome.

Do you think Shifty should better explain his praise for Pence?

“Promises made, promises kept.”

Gavin Newsome.

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I’m certain that literally any politician as president including Peter King, Maxine Waters or the rotting corpse of Spiro Agnew could have done better.

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Joe Arpaio could have done better.

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But not Gavin Newsome.

“Promises made, promises kept”

Should Shifty explain what Pence would have done that would have been so much better?

So you can tell me what the numbers would be if it wasn’t Trump?

I don’t know about that. But Pence would have done better than Trump.

Apparently Shifty thinks he can. He just won’t say. :joy:

Example? What would have been different?

Well…Pence’s track record on handling outbreaks is not impressive.

Of course, the HIV outbreak in 2015 in Indiana that he made worse might have been because he thinks of AIDs as a “gay” disease so you never know…