MN Rep. Jim Knoblach ends campaign ahead of abuse allegations story

CaughtInTheMiddle · 2018-09-24T10:29:03.626Z

Smyrna:

CaughtInTheMiddle:

explain…

The accuser is the one making demands of what must take place before she will present her testimony against the person being accused. The Constitutional rights of Kavanaugh are being tossed aside due to the current PC lib atmosphere. The accuser has had 36 years to bring this up and declined to do so until now. The Senator that is bringing this before the Senate, has had months to do so but declined until right now…just before the vote. We are throwing away the Consitution and the law and adopting this new, PC culture. Well not me. I care about the treatment of women but it is never to be used as a weapon, as in this case.

Kavanaugh isn’t being locked up.

Smyrna · 2018-09-24T10:33:54.262Z

CaughtInTheMiddle:

Kavanaugh isn’t being locked up.

I don’t know why I wasted my time?

CaughtInTheMiddle · 2018-09-24T11:06:10.665Z

Smyrna:

CaughtInTheMiddle:

Kavanaugh isn’t being locked up.

I don’t know why I wasted my time?

It sure sounds like what you’re saying is that people need to be able to face their accusers in court prior to Congress gathering info (which they will probably ignore) so that they can’t have that additional info (which could possibly influence them). That’s just not how the nomination process works. But I guess he could try and sue her. Or we could have a setup where no accusations can be made prior, a person is confirmed, then the next day 50 women say “yeah, he grabbed my ■■■■■ in college but I didn’t report it”.

And I don’t remember you saying anything about accusations when everybody (like media people) and their brother were accusing Hillary Clinton of stuff (like causing deaths, etc) as she was trying to get votes/influence people.

Smyrna · 2018-09-24T11:17:20.785Z

CaughtInTheMiddle:

It sure sounds like what you’re saying is that people need to be able to face their accusers in court prior to Congress gathering info (which they will probably ignore) so that they can’t have that additional info (which could possibly influence them). That’s just not how the nomination process works. But I guess he could try and sue her. Or we could have a setup where no accusations can be made prior, a person is confirmed, then the next day 50 women say “yeah, he grabbed my ■■■■■ in college but I didn’t report it”.

And I don’t remember you saying anything about accusations when everybody (like media people) and their brother were accusing Hillary Clinton of stuff (like causing deaths, etc) as she was trying to get votes/influence people.

This accusation is from almost 4 decades ago? If the accused is guilty, can we agree that normally this is a pattern of behavior? She won’t be the only one? As you said, “50 women say he grabbed my ■■■■■ in college but I didn’t report it”? In the almost 4 decades, have you heard any other evidence of this serious accusation? Have any other women come forward and suggested a similar experience in the almost 40 years since her alleged incident? It’s been almost 2 weeks now that this accusation has been the front page news of every news medium in the United States…any other ladies come out and support this serious accusation? If not, why not? What reason could there be? If this lady comes out now, why now? What reason could there be? Is she politically active? Is she a Trump supporter? Does she have an axe to grind? Is there anything else in their past that could motivate this serious, unsupported accusation?

CaughtInTheMiddle · 2018-09-24T11:47:39.028Z

Smyrna:

This accusation is from almost 4 decades ago?

Vince Foster’s death was from 25 years ago and the media people you like still say the Clinton’s had him killed. Posters here have said it. I never once saw you have an issue with that.

Why the difference?

Smyrna · 2018-09-24T11:50:37.225Z

CaughtInTheMiddle:

Vince Foster’s death was from 25 years ago and the media people you like still say the Clinton’s had him killed. Posters here have said it. I never once saw you have an issue with that.

Why the difference?

Damn it…I bothered with you again. Damn it…

CaughtInTheMiddle · 2018-09-24T11:51:26.457Z

Smyrna:

CaughtInTheMiddle:

Vince Foster’s death was from 25 years ago and the media people you like still say the Clinton’s had him killed. Posters here have said it. I never once saw you have an issue with that.

Why the difference?

Damn it…I bothered with you again. Damn it…

I hate to corner you but you bring it on yourself.

bluedogdem · 2018-09-24T12:02:26.136Z

Smyrna:

CaughtInTheMiddle:

It sure sounds like what you’re saying is that people need to be able to face their accusers in court prior to Congress gathering info (which they will probably ignore) so that they can’t have that additional info (which could possibly influence them). That’s just not how the nomination process works. But I guess he could try and sue her. Or we could have a setup where no accusations can be made prior, a person is confirmed, then the next day 50 women say “yeah, he grabbed my ■■■■■ in college but I didn’t report it”.

And I don’t remember you saying anything about accusations when everybody (like media people) and their brother were accusing Hillary Clinton of stuff (like causing deaths, etc) as she was trying to get votes/influence people.

This accusation is from almost 4 decades ago? If the accused is guilty, can we agree that normally this is a pattern of behavior? She won’t be the only one? As you said, “50 women say he grabbed my ■■■■■ in college but I didn’t report it”? In the almost 4 decades, have you heard any other evidence of this serious accusation? Have any other women come forward and suggested a similar experience in the almost 40 years since her alleged incident? It’s been almost 2 weeks now that this accusation has been the front page news of every news medium in the United States…any other ladies come out and support this serious accusation? If not, why not? What reason could there be? If this lady comes out now, why now? What reason could there be? Is she politically active? Is she a Trump supporter? Does she have an axe to grind? Is there anything else in their past that could motivate this serious, unsupported accusation?

Ehh Bill Cosby got put through the ringer that was 40+ years ago. If true, being a sleaze bag doesn’t expire

Smyrna · 2018-09-24T12:06:06.960Z

bluedogdem:

Ehh Bill Cosby got put through the ringer that was 40+ years ago. If true, being a sleaze bag doesn’t expire

Was there a pattern with Cosby? Was it just one female who accused him? Was their penetration involved?

bluedogdem · 2018-09-24T12:16:23.623Z

Smyrna:

bluedogdem:

Ehh Bill Cosby got put through the ringer that was 40+ years ago. If true, being a sleaze bag doesn’t expire

Was there a pattern with Cosby? Was it just one female who accused him? Was their penetration involved?

So it has to be penetration and multiple people assaulted for it to be true?

CaughtInTheMiddle · 2018-09-24T12:30:04.883Z

bluedogdem:

Smyrna:

bluedogdem:

Ehh Bill Cosby got put through the ringer that was 40+ years ago. If true, being a sleaze bag doesn’t expire

Was there a pattern with Cosby? Was it just one female who accused him? Was their penetration involved?

So it has to be penetration and multiple people assaulted for it to be true?

Plus, when the very first woman came out against Cosby didn’t we all kind of play the wait and see thing? Many didn’t believe it. Then it picked up steam and then snowballed.

Smyrna · 2018-09-24T12:38:02.358Z

bluedogdem:

So it has to be penetration and multiple people assaulted for it to be true?

When attempting to discern the truth, sexual predators historically commit these horrendous acts throughout their life. You mentioned Cosby and that’s a good example. Does Kavanaugh fit into this pattern of sexual predatory behavior? Let’s all drop the politics and be honest with each other. Is there any evidence to support the accuser’s claim, except her claim?

CaughtInTheMiddle · 2018-09-24T12:42:06.804Z

Smyrna:

When attempting to discern the truth, sexual predators historically commit these horrendous acts throughout their life.

Or some guys just flash their thing in a woman’s face in college.

Guilds · 2018-09-24T14:00:53.691Z

Wait…penetration has to be present for sexual assault?

Don’t you have daughters?

WTH?

Smyrna · 2018-09-24T16:08:55.202Z

Guilds:

Wait…penetration has to be present for sexual assault?

Don’t you have daughters?

WTH?

It can give credence to the severity of the assault. Do you consider fondling of a breast, outside of their clothing…the same as forcibly restraining someone and violently raping them or possibly sodomy? I don’t and yet the word “rape” is being thrown around as if there is no difference. By your post, you are one of those people…WTH?

Konssurvative1 · 2018-09-24T16:25:23.952Z

So quick to judge. I feel so bad for this young lady…everyone let her down. Her father, her mother, family, the school, church, police, prosecutors. I hope she is getting the help she needs to go on with life, and realize that her father doesn’t deserve her.

Republican/ Democrat it really doesn’t matter does it? This is disgusting.

mobiusptc · 2018-09-24T16:30:08.769Z

http://www.ktva.com/story/39123509/anchorage-man-pleads-guilty-in-choking-sexual-assault-case#.W6PT8x6T2OA.twitter

An Anchorage man walked out of court a free man Wednesday after changing his plea in the case of a brazen midday assault in which charging documents say he offered a woman a ride, then strangled her unconscious and masturbated on her.

Konssurvative1 · 2018-09-24T16:35:30.435Z

So you are saying that people will vote for a pedofile republican over a clean family man democrat and that’s why we have so many republican pedofiles and homosexuals and perverts in congress?

SO what you are saying is it isn’t the politicians…it’s the voting public that is sick?

toreyj01 · 2018-09-24T16:43:23.302Z

Robert Byrd! Lets see if someone else says it as I scroll down the thread.

Guilds · 2018-09-24T17:02:43.146Z

Smyrna:

It can give credence to the severity of the assault. Do you consider fondling of a breast, outside of their clothing…the same as forcibly restraining someone and violently raping them or possibly sodomy? I don’t and yet the word “rape” is being thrown around as if there is no difference. By your post, you are one of those people…WTH?

You compare those 2 very different scenarios, and ask me if they are the same?

Give me a break.

So, although it is not the same, would you be upset if your daughter was forcibly held down, and was felt up over her clothes, as she tried to scream and escape?
Is that sexual assault?

It may not be rape, but it is certainly sexual assault and traumatizing to the victim.

Let’s hope neither of those scenarios happen to any of our loved ones.