MN cops shoot and kill another black man

[conan]

I’ve been answering em. You just can’t accept the truth.

[PurpnGold]

@Rodeo

If Duante Wright had obeyed the lawful orders of the officers the odds are overwhelming he would be alive right now. Period. It does not matter if he knew of his outstanding warrants or not…ignorance of the law is no excuse.

None of this matters because he didn’t deserve to die because of an outstanding warrant.

@Rodeo

What happened was not the death penalty…it certainly appears to have been a tragic accident.

And he “accidentally” fled

See how that works

@Rodeo

You people who think your the smartest guys in the room claiming racism with no evidence disproving anything I just said are doing nothing but playing a small part inflaming an already awful situation…

[Steel-W0LF]

@Jezcoe

@Rodeo

@Jezcoe

How so?

Resisting arrest creates a scenario of conflict…

And no “just let him go we’ll catch him later” is not the solution. That is one of the dumbest things I’ve read in a long time…

“Hey the police just grabbed me here’s what you do I resisted arrest and the let me go…just resist it worked!” Can’t wait to see the chaos that would set up.

Resisting arrest does not carry the death penalty.

It is wild that people will accept it when it does happen.

But it did cause her to grab for her taser but draw the gun by mistake. Everything prior to his being shot was the situation he created.

Drawing the gun instead of the taser is a glaring training error that hopefully gets rectified. Nobody, including me, practices drawing a taser in a heat of the moment situation. And we should…anyone that trains for self defense should.

Let’s flip it around to a similar but totally different situation:

Man is a thrill seeker, decides to try BASE jumping. Chute opens but he lands wrong and hits his head on a rock and has a brain bleed. Doctor at the hospital attempts to operate but makes a mistake and the man dies…

The doctor is responsible for the error, but is not responsible for putting the man in that situation in the first place. The man is responsible for being in a situation where the doctor was even able to make that error.

[conan]

Bottom line is…society got Wright killed. A society that you libs created.

[PurpnGold]

@conan

I’ve been answering em. You just can’t accept the truth.

What lib told black people that they get a free pass to car Jack?

I’m looking for a name or two.

[wiley8425]

It doesn’t. Nothing short of the commission of a felony that puts lives of the officers or others in jeopardy does. None of which occurred here. Police are supposed to be trained to de-escalate the situation. Not escalate the situation to the point they have to kill the person they’re trying to arrest.

That’s irrelevant anyway. The officer didn’t intend to shoot him, she intended to taze him. Non lethal force would have been completely appropriate and was expected in order to get the suspect to comply.

The officer screwed up. End of story.

[TheDoctorIsIn]

@conan

remember…I was the one that warned all of you about policing dangers here long time ago.

Remember… In this thread, you took the position of defending the cops against those dang minorities who don’t think the law applies to them.

[Jezcoe]

@Rodeo

@Jezcoe

Maybe it was because he didn’t know about the warrant for his arrest because the court sent the order for him to appear to the wrong address.

He never got the notice through no fault of his own and was issued a warrant for his arrest.

Who knows what was going through his head at that time?

Nothing he did deserved a death penalty.

Maybe maybe maybe…

If Duante Wright had obeyed the lawful orders of the officers the odds are overwhelming he would be alive right now. Period. It does not matter if he knew of his outstanding warrants or not…ignorance of the law is no excuse.

What happened was not the death penalty…it certainly appears to have been a tragic accident. There is a process…two investigations are being conducted, the officer who did her job well enough to serve for 28 years on that police force has resigned. She could be charged with a crime tomorrow, Chief of Police has been fired…the process won’t bring Mr Wright back but it is working.

You people who think your the smartest guys in the room claiming racism with no evidence disproving anything I just said are doing nothing but playing a small part inflaming an already awful situation…

Personally I think it’s disgusting.

I ll bet I m not alone…and no that does not make me a racist.

True. If he did not resist he would likely still be alive.

But he did.

It may also have been a tragic accident… but he is still dead over an initial stop of air fresheners hanging from his rear view mirror.

The part of the equation here is where the use of force that turned deadly occurred. Was that force necessary in the first place?

I don’t think so. He wasn’t presenting himself as a threat. He wasn’t attacking. He was fleeing.

[CanadianJudo]

@Steel-W0LF

@Jezcoe

@Rodeo

@Jezcoe

How so?

Resisting arrest creates a scenario of conflict…

And no “just let him go we’ll catch him later” is not the solution. That is one of the dumbest things I’ve read in a long time…

“Hey the police just grabbed me here’s what you do I resisted arrest and the let me go…just resist it worked!” Can’t wait to see the chaos that would set up.

Resisting arrest does not carry the death penalty.

It is wild that people will accept it when it does happen.

But it did cause her to grab for her taser but draw the gun by mistake. Everything prior to his being shot was the situation he created.

Drawing the gun instead of the taser is a glaring training error that hopefully gets rectified. Nobody, including me, practices drawing a taser in a heat of the moment situation. And we should…anyone that trains for self defense should.

Let’s flip it around to a similar but totally different situation:

Man is a thrill seeker, decides to try BASE jumping. Chute opens but he lands wrong and hits his head on a rock and has a brain bleed. Doctor at the hospital attempts to operate but makes a mistake and the man dies…

The doctor is responsible for the error, but is not responsible for putting the man in that situation in the first place. The man is responsible for being in a situation where the doctor was even able to make that error.

being a mistake doesn’t mean its not murder.

[conan]

You do understand that in most cities car jackings go unpunished.

[Steel-W0LF]

@CanadianJudo

@Steel-W0LF

@Jezcoe

@Rodeo

@Jezcoe

How so?

Resisting arrest creates a scenario of conflict…

And no “just let him go we’ll catch him later” is not the solution. That is one of the dumbest things I’ve read in a long time…

“Hey the police just grabbed me here’s what you do I resisted arrest and the let me go…just resist it worked!” Can’t wait to see the chaos that would set up.

Resisting arrest does not carry the death penalty.

It is wild that people will accept it when it does happen.

But it did cause her to grab for her taser but draw the gun by mistake. Everything prior to his being shot was the situation he created.

Drawing the gun instead of the taser is a glaring training error that hopefully gets rectified. Nobody, including me, practices drawing a taser in a heat of the moment situation. And we should…anyone that trains for self defense should.

Let’s flip it around to a similar but totally different situation:

Man is a thrill seeker, decides to try BASE jumping. Chute opens but he lands wrong and hits his head on a rock and has a brain bleed. Doctor at the hospital attempts to operate but makes a mistake and the man dies…

The doctor is responsible for the error, but is not responsible for putting the man in that situation in the first place. The man is responsible for being in a situation where the doctor was even able to make that error.

being a mistake doesn’t mean its not murder.

Actually. Yes. Legally it does.

[PurpnGold]

@Steel-W0LF

Drawing the gun instead of the taser is a glaring training error that hopefully gets rectified. Nobody, including me, practices drawing a taser in a heat of the moment situation. And we should…anyone that trains for self defense should

Hell why did he deserve to be tased?!

[CanadianJudo]

@wiley8425

It doesn’t. Nothing short of the commission of a felony that puts lives of the officers or others in jeopardy does. None of which occurred here. Police are supposed to be trained to de-escalate the situation. Not escalate the situation to the point they have to kill the person they’re trying to arrest.

That’s irrelevant anyway. The officer didn’t intend to shoot him, she intended to taze him. Non lethal force would have been completely appropriate and was expected in order to get the suspect to comply.

The officer screwed up. End of story.

If I screw up and hit the gas and run over a kid,
its still murder.

[Jezcoe]

@Steel-W0LF

But it did cause her to grab for her taser but draw the gun by mistake

Let’s stop right there then.

Was he a danger to them that a taser was necessary?

[Steel-W0LF]

@PurpnGold

@Steel-W0LF

Drawing the gun instead of the taser is a glaring training error that hopefully gets rectified. Nobody, including me, practices drawing a taser in a heat of the moment situation. And we should…anyone that trains for self defense should

Hell why did he deserve to be tased?!

For resisting arrest and trying to flee the scene.

[CanadianJudo]

okay manslaughter,
she should still be punished.

[wiley8425]

No it’s criminal manslaughter. Not the same thing at all.

[conan]

Am I defending the cop…I’m blaming libs for action that Wright did.

You filled his head with lies and propaganda that he felt he could run from the cops.

That’s what I see.

[CanadianJudo]

@wiley8425

No it’s criminal manslaughter. Not the same thing at all.

fine manslaughter,
she should still be punished.

[Steel-W0LF]

@Jezcoe

@Steel-W0LF

But it did cause her to grab for her taser but draw the gun by mistake

Let’s stop right there then.

Was he a danger to them that a taser was necessary?

Do you think he planned on sedately and calmly driving away?

Really?