Mitch freezes again

Impenitent · 2023-08-30T21:19:45.578Z

mental difficulty can have little to do with age…

ask Fetterman

conan · 2023-08-30T21:32:06.041Z

WuWei:

I don’t care. Repeal the 17th!

Right now 29 states have republican controlled senate.

Safiel · 2023-08-30T23:44:45.045Z

conan:

WuWei:

I don’t care. Repeal the 17th!

Right now 29 states have republican controlled senate.

Actually, the approval of both Houses of the Legislature was needed to elect a Senator.

Which is why there were frequent vacancies before the 17th, because two Houses could not agree on one candidate, particularly if there was split partisan control.

Part of the reason why the 17th Amendment was passed.

WuWei · 2023-08-30T23:45:59.256Z

Safiel:

Which is why there were frequent vacancies before the 17th, because two Houses could not agree on one candidate, particularly if there was split partisan control.

Part of the reason why the 17th Amendment was passed.

Myth.

pam95650 · 2023-08-31T00:56:51.553Z

Not a fan, but it was brutal watching someone dying before our eyes.

Jezcoe · 2023-08-31T02:21:30.955Z

Safiel:

conan:

WuWei:

I don’t care. Repeal the 17th!

Right now 29 states have republican controlled senate.

Actually, the approval of both Houses of the Legislature was needed to elect a Senator.

Which is why there were frequent vacancies before the 17th, because two Houses could not agree on one candidate, particularly if there was split partisan control.

Part of the reason why the 17th Amendment was passed.

Also… there was some pretty rampant corruption around outright buying a Senate seat in Montana

Supreme_War_Pig · 2023-08-31T02:37:49.433Z

Plus, too much democracy gets in the way of minority rule.

Ben_Natuf · 2023-08-31T03:13:33.764Z

merely a plausible excuse, the 17th was passed to cut the states out of the compact

Safiel · 2023-08-31T03:44:50.227Z

Ben_Natuf:

merely a plausible excuse, the 17th was passed to cut the states out of the compact

Then they evidently (and voluntarily) cut THEMSELVES out of the compact by ratifying the 17th Amendment. 41 of the 48 then existing States ratified the amendment. Only one ultimately rejected it (Utah). The six States that did not ratify, may either have opposed the amendment or may simply have not bothered due to its ratification being complete.

The States VOLUNTARILY gave up that power.

Massachusetts: May 22, 1912
Arizona: June 3, 1912
Minnesota: June 10, 1912
New York: January 15, 1913
Kansas: January 17, 1913
Oregon: January 23, 1913
North Carolina: January 25, 1913
California: January 28, 1913
Michigan: January 28, 1913
Iowa: January 30, 1913
Montana: January 30, 1913
Idaho: January 31, 1913
West Virginia: February 4, 1913
Colorado: February 5, 1913
Nevada: February 6, 1913
Texas: February 7, 1913
Washington: February 7, 1913
Wyoming: February 8, 1913
Arkansas: February 11, 1913
Maine: February 11, 1913
Illinois: February 13, 1913
North Dakota: February 14, 1913
Wisconsin: February 18, 1913
Indiana: February 19, 1913
New Hampshire: February 19, 1913
Vermont: February 19, 1913
South Dakota: February 19, 1913
Oklahoma: February 24, 1913
Ohio: February 25, 1913
Missouri: March 7, 1913
New Mexico: March 13, 1913
Nebraska: March 14, 1913
New Jersey: March 17, 1913
Tennessee: April 1, 1913
Pennsylvania: April 2, 1913
Connecticut: April 8, 1913

With 36 states having ratified the Seventeenth Amendment, it was certified by Secretary of State William Jennings Bryan on May 31, 1913, as part of the Constitution. The amendment has subsequently been ratified by:

Louisiana: June 11, 1914
Alabama: April 11, 2002
Delaware: July 1, 2010 (after rejecting the amendment on March 18, 1913)
Maryland: April 1, 2012
Rhode Island: June 20, 2014

The Utah legislature rejected the amendment on February 26, 1913. No action on the amendment has been completed by Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, Mississippi, South Carolina, Virginia, Alaska or Hawaii. Alaska and Hawaii were not yet states at the time of the amendment’s proposal, and have never taken any official action to support or oppose the amendment since achieving statehood.

Samm · 2023-08-31T06:37:00.519Z

BlueHeron:

Looks like it is. I had a TIA awhile back and my daughter says I did the same thing.

I have a good friend about Mitch’s age who had several of these “freeze-ups.” Her doctor (a neurologist) says they are neurological episodes, not a stroke. Her’s seem to be brought on by stress, which could explain Mitch’s as well. However, that these are occurring since his head injury last spring, who knows.

Just last Friday, one of my coffee companions had a similar experience except he simply suddenly (mid sentence) could not form words. He could move and seemed to understand what we said to him, but when given the stroke protocol, he could not smile so we assumed a stroke and called 911. Before the EMTs got there, his speech recovered, but he seemed confused. After giving him a quick check over, the EMTs took him to the ER for a more thorough check, but still assuming a stoke. But when we spoke to him Monday (on the phone) he said the doctors could find no evidence of a stoke on the MRI. Apparently, the brain can just go on the fritz for no apparent reason.

Samm · 2023-08-31T06:43:26.400Z

Munimula1:

Interesting Factoid: Among the 46 states that do give their governors authority to name replacement senators, 11 limit their field of choice in some way. Seven states – Hawaii, Kentucky, Maryland, Montana, North Carolina, West Virginia and Wyoming – make the governor choose from a list of nominees submitted by the previous senator’s party. (Kentucky joined that group last year, at the urging of Republican Sen. Mitch McConnell, age 80; perhaps coincidentally, Kentucky Gov. Andy Beshear is a Democrat.) A look at how states fill vacant Senate seats | Pew Research Center

Maybe he saw this coming.

Could be. Regardless, it’s clear that it’s in the best interest of both him and the people of Kentucky that he step down.

Munimula1 · 2023-08-31T12:39:24.329Z

Now I’m hearing on Morning Joe that James Comer, who is from Kentucky, is interested in becoming a Senator. Head of GOP’s Biden probe, Rep. James Comer flirts with higher office

WuWei · 2023-08-31T16:38:16.912Z

Myth.

WuWei · 2023-08-31T16:40:12.534Z

Supreme_War_Pig:

Plus, too much democracy gets in the way of minority rule.

You don’t want to live in a democracy. You’re a minority.

johnrandolph · 2023-08-31T16:41:54.417Z

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WuWei · 2023-08-31T16:41:58.707Z

Munimula1:

Morning Joe

That explains a lot.

SixFoot · 2023-08-31T17:44:07.152Z

johnrandolph:

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Axxowiz · 2023-09-01T01:06:10.197Z

FlameHeart · 2023-09-01T11:46:22.884Z

I’ve been worried about him.

FlameHeart · 2023-09-01T11:47:56.652Z

I hope that you are doing well in recovery. That must have been very scary.