Missing Titanic Tourist Sub

Toll_Collector · 2023-07-08T04:03:55.174Z

I actually think the idea Rush had was a good one. Just needs more testing. Maybe a thicker than 5 inch hull, and a diamond pattern instead of the straight pattern they used. Also, maybe a quicker way to ascend.

Samm · 2023-07-08T04:28:01.645Z

The video that you posted speculates that water penetrated a dry area in the tail section that slowed the assent. Coming back to the surface was about the only part of the design that had multiple redundancy.

Toll_Collector · 2023-07-08T12:33:49.391Z

This is what I pieced together just now. Something you probably already did. The sub was taking on water in the tail early on. Which is why they were descending too fast. Obviously the real time monitoring system wasn’t designed to detect that, just noise in the structure.

Once they reached a depth that put strain on the hull, the RTM went off. But when they tried to ascend, the water weight countered. Too much had already gotten in. Had they detected the leak early on, maybe they would have had better luck. But at that depth, with the great pressure all around them, the added water was just too much.

FloridaYankee · 2023-07-09T22:44:14.614Z

Safiel:

Presumed Human Remains

That is the term the Coast Guard used.

A polite way of saying they have goop and not bodies on their hands.

My opinion above regarding human confetti and/or human soup turned out to be right on the mark.

As soon as it was reported they were dead one knowledgeable submarine guy said “They are not even mush”.

Toll_Collector · 2023-07-10T13:22:23.947Z

FloridaYankee:

Safiel:

Presumed Human Remains

That is the term the Coast Guard used.

A polite way of saying they have goop and not bodies on their hands.

My opinion above regarding human confetti and/or human soup turned out to be right on the mark.

As soon as it was reported they were dead one knowledgeable submarine guy said “They are not even mush”.

I’m not so sure about that. Remember, this isn’t metal, it’s carbon fiber. They’re dead alright, but maybe not the way people think they died.

Toll_Collector · 2023-07-10T13:24:50.808Z

Axxowiz:

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I thought this sign was edited. But apparently it was not. A Subway actually posted this sign.

Nemesis · 2023-07-10T15:58:39.180Z

A Tad insensitive but still funny.

Cratic3947 · 2023-07-10T16:12:12.021Z

It was built by “Scientists”.

FloridaYankee · 2023-07-10T16:26:10.524Z

Toll_Collector:

FloridaYankee:

Safiel:

Presumed Human Remains

That is the term the Coast Guard used.

A polite way of saying they have goop and not bodies on their hands.

My opinion above regarding human confetti and/or human soup turned out to be right on the mark.

As soon as it was reported they were dead one knowledgeable submarine guy said “They are not even mush”.

I’m not so sure about that. Remember, this isn’t metal, it’s carbon fiber. They’re dead alright, but maybe not the way people think they died.

Well, with 6000 psi on the hull they ain’t much.

Toll_Collector · 2023-07-10T18:14:22.532Z

FloridaYankee:

Toll_Collector:

FloridaYankee:

Safiel:

Presumed Human Remains

That is the term the Coast Guard used.

A polite way of saying they have goop and not bodies on their hands.

My opinion above regarding human confetti and/or human soup turned out to be right on the mark.

As soon as it was reported they were dead one knowledgeable submarine guy said “They are not even mush”.

I’m not so sure about that. Remember, this isn’t metal, it’s carbon fiber. They’re dead alright, but maybe not the way people think they died.

Well, with 6000 psi on the hull they ain’t much.

Sure, but I would imagine a steel hull imploding would do a lot more damage to a body than a carbon fiber hull shattering around you. Steel would obliterate the bodies. But with CF it may have mainly been the water pressure.

Samm · 2023-07-10T21:11:55.517Z

Without seeing pictures of the wreckage or reading a detailed description of it we can only speculate, but given that the titanium nose piece was recovered intact some distance from the main debris and adding the hints from the recording that the failure started in tail pod, I’m guessing that it was like rolling up a toothpaste tube very quickly. The cylindrical shape of the tube is structurally dependent on the end sections. If the aft one was compromised and separated from the tube the tube would collapse.

GWH · 2023-07-11T01:18:46.304Z

SixFoot:

Should’ve used the Game Genie for the infinite time under water code…

Old school NES controller. Up up down down left right left right B A start…infinite lives.

SpadeMarlowe · 2023-07-11T19:14:15.877Z

Some prospective candidates trusted their gut and declined.
13 trips to the bottom out of over 100 total the sub made and aborted over 90 is not best odds.
The overwhelming enthusiasm about seeing Titanic in real life clouded their common sense.
I only feel sorry for the young 19 year old man and his mother who lost her son to such an unnecessary cause.

Toll_Collector · 2023-07-11T23:12:49.412Z

I wonder if his advancing age caused him to move too quickly with his project. If Rush was in his 30s, would he have taken more time? I think his idea could have been perfected had he given it a chance.

thinkingman · 2023-07-11T23:59:20.113Z

Camp:

In Memoria…

fantastic. for the RO-BOTS

Toll_Collector · 2023-07-14T13:15:08.723Z

I no longer believe the leaked transcript is real. I am close to 100% on that.

It has been said that the Polar Prince, or whatever the mother ship was called didn’t raise the alarm immediately after they lost connection to the Titan. It was many hours before they did so. This was attributed to this happening before with no ill results.

But if you read the transcript, it clearly shows a serious situation going on. They would never have waited that long to call for help. They would have immediately.

Samm · 2023-07-14T20:53:52.899Z

Why? What could anyone have done for them?

Toll_Collector · 2023-07-15T03:22:27.891Z

Not raising the alarm goes in direct contrast to the transcript. Like crying wolf, after a while you ignore it. Unless there’s a good reason not to ignore it, which would be what took place in the transcript.

But I do see your point. What could they do but wait and see if they reestablish contact. Like they’ve done in the past. It just seemed like they waited a bit too long under those circumstances.

Samm · 2023-07-15T07:39:59.597Z

Too long? The capsule collapsed in a few milliseconds. It would have made no difference if they had called for help at next moment at the end of that transcript or had never called at all. The only hope those people had was if the loss of communications was their only serious problem and that they still had positive buoyancy (as last reported.) The crew topside knew that even in the best-case scenario, it would take hours for the sub to reach the surface. Calling for help was not a priority.

And I don’t get your cry wolf analogy. There was no false alarm.

SpadeMarlowe · 2023-07-15T09:45:42.804Z

I’d give him the benefit of a doubt if he agreed to have his vessel certifyed/properly examined.
He refused, he admited that he cut few corners and that in my mind is recless disregard for safety no matter how rushed, no pun intended, is he to reach his goal.