Min Wage Hikes Hurting Business

7ranz · April 13, 2019, 1:56pm

Well, there’s always Medicare for All. But that is socialism so…quite the pickle.

thinkingman · April 13, 2019, 1:57pm

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ImRightYoureWrong:

thinkingman:

it is not the employer’s responsibility to make their employees’ lives easier!

Its not the employee or governments responsibility to make business owners lives easier. Business is a 2 way street. You seem to forget that

actually thats wrong. if govmt does its job right, they make conditions better for business

the employee is hired to help the business , to grow the business, to contribute to keeping the business alive…

good lord

And you get what you pay for.

right

So if you want good workers you have to pay good.

yes correct. but everyone instantly gets paid the same min wage. so where’s the incentive to stand out by doing well?

one of my personal arguments against min wage

Well first people like you and Zantax want to pay the absolute minimum you can and expect people to work their hardest. And second ever hear of this thing called a raise?

alright so without the min wage, the employee’s labor value is now determined by the market.

if no one feels the going rate is high enough, they will not apply for the job

the owner really needs someone to scrub the parking lot though, so…

you fill in the rest - what happens?

ImRightYoureWrong · April 13, 2019, 1:57pm

More reason to get health indurance out of business completely and do single payer

Smyrna · April 13, 2019, 1:57pm

If government takes over healthcare, it will go up in price and down in effectiveness…PERIOD.

7ranz · April 13, 2019, 1:59pm

Why do you think that?

ImRightYoureWrong · April 13, 2019, 1:59pm

And yet, we’ve had minimum wage laws for decades and there’s plenty of low skilled jobs. Your sky is falling argument doesnt work. Maybe with minimum wage people arent as desperate.

ImRightYoureWrong · April 13, 2019, 2:00pm

Thats what those darn Canadians say

thinkingman · April 13, 2019, 2:00pm

please fill in what happens next

ImRightYoureWrong · April 13, 2019, 2:01pm

The owner will find a desperate poor person to do it then build a business model around that poverty.

Smyrna · April 13, 2019, 2:01pm

That’s a weak POV and I’m nowhere near there. I’d rather fix the problems of what’s driving up the costs, than redistribute the financial burden of in inefficient, broken system…as an additional tax.

7ranz · April 13, 2019, 2:02pm

They might as well be French.

thinkingman · April 13, 2019, 2:02pm

remember now… no one is applying for that job

so they cant find anyone

please try again

ImRightYoureWrong · April 13, 2019, 2:02pm

Yet, globally most countries are happier, healthier, and dont have our system

ImRightYoureWrong · April 13, 2019, 2:03pm

I see. We get to just make things up now to suit our arguments. Amazing conversation.

Smyrna · April 13, 2019, 2:03pm

Yet…so many who can afford ours, come here for their healthcare while also paying for it at home. Now ask yourself why that is? The answer will be destroyed with government intrusion.

ImRightYoureWrong · April 13, 2019, 2:04pm

Hey guys did u know that if people dont apply to a job the business person needs to raise wage to get more applying. I am so learned

ImRightYoureWrong · April 13, 2019, 2:05pm

Yes, the wealthy can do what they want because they have a lot of money. The poor who cant afford it here would get it over there.

Smyrna · April 13, 2019, 2:06pm

…then you’re catching on to reality.

7ranz · April 13, 2019, 2:06pm

It’s hard to imagine why rich people would come here to have a medical procedure when our healthcare system is completely dependent on how much money you have.

If our healthcare system is so bad why does Prince Harold, Henry, or whatever come here to have a vasectomy or whatever? I guess he earned it or whatever.

ImRightYoureWrong · April 13, 2019, 2:06pm

Reality isnt black and white like that.