You have shown an incredible lack of integrity. I said no such thing. You completely made that up. There is no more charitable person in the world than the American conservative. Sorry dude. We blow liberals away. And it’s not even close.
No doubt you can back this up with some data, right?
But the point isn’t who is more charitable. It’s that the “American conservative” wants to force the country into a situation where charity in the US is necessary because people just aren’t being paid sustainable wages…because hey, it’s only fair that the dude at the top be able to keep a few more dollars a year so that his workers are forced to seek out welfare/charity/second or third jobs.
Yes I can.
Liberals show tremendous compassion in pushing for generous government spending to help the neediest people at home and abroad. Yet when it comes to individual contributions to charitable causes, liberals are cheapskates.
Now now…I thought we didn’t like personal shots around here!
vaard
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So…
It turns out that a decline in customers is the true culprit of hurting businesses…
How does being more charitable in your personal life translate to being a better person? Does that include volunteer hours or just money in the bank?
I’m not here to analyze it. Just to say it’s true. The American conservative is the most generous person on Earth.
Liberals show tremendous compassion in pushing for generous government spending to help the neediest people at home and abroad. Yet when it comes to individual contributions to charitable causes, liberals are cheapskates.
Well let’s dig in:
Using voting and IRS data for the residents of 3,000 counties across the nation, the four-professor research team found, according to the New York Times , that counties which are “overwhelmingly Republican” report higher charitable contributions than Democratic-dominated counties, although “giving in blue counties is often bolstered by a combination of charitable donations and higher taxes.
and then
Because the range of organizations and activities that are supported by tax deductible giving is very wide, it is not clear how these funds are actually used or what motives they reflect.
Republicans do give more, but where that money ends up is not yet clear. One of the study’s authors, Rebecca Nesbit, associate professor of public administration and policy at the University of Georgia, told the New York Times that Republicans prefer to “provide for the collective good through private institutions. But we don’t know what type of institutions they’re giving to.” It also wasn’t obvious “whether donors were being purely generous or whether they would also benefit from their donation. This relationship is called consumption philanthropy , in which people give to a religious organization or a school from which they will derive a benefit in the form of, say, a better religious education program or a new gymnasium.”
And then
While red counties may be more philanthropic, tax rates are higher in blue counties, reflecting stronger support for collective action and for a social safety net of services and organizations. “The county you live in and the political ideology of that county affects the tax burden of the community,” Dr. Nesbit said. “That in turn has an effect on charitable contributions. If you leave tax burden out of the equation, you’re not getting the full story.”
So there’s more to the story than just “conservatives give more.” No doubt you were going to paint the entire picture for us. You’re welcome for saving you the trouble!
But again, who is more charitable is irrelevant. Conservatives are content funneling money to the top, and when it doesn’t trickle down, want bootstraps, and want people to become magically more qualified and skilled of their own volition. While barely making a min wage.
20 per hr for who?
how much is their labor actually worth?
that hurts businesses
so does paying employees more than they are worth
komobu
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Thanks…I’m not familiar with local politics in NY so your thread brought a new perspective.
Having said that, I do get defensive when I read about land lords and property owners being greedy since I am one… My wife and I own 3 Single Family Home Rental Units. Say an investor, in this case me, purchases a house for 150k. I am now tied to a mortgage on that property with obligations. If I dont pay, I lose it and all the money I previously put into it.People expect the property owners to cover the loss if a tenant doesnt pay rent, but Investors have bills to. We are counting on the rent being paid to cover the mortgage or part of it on the property. Believe me, I am not looking for a loss on my taxes when I buy a property. Nobody I personally know is. I and every other Investor I know is looking for a return on their investment.
no. reports of it hurting businsses are being ignored, instead seattle and yelp are the new standards of how labor should be compensated
It depends how many dollars are out there and how much that dollar buys. A lot of positions in these banks requires college degrees to start, and (say what you will about the education system) these people aren’t stupid. They know math and purchasing power.
$20 per hour seems like a lot, but one day it will be minimum wage. Right now, $12 is about the minimum I, or anyone, should work for.
Even the NY times knows the conservatives are more charitable. You can attempt to spin it any way you choose. But it doesn’t change the facts. Just admit it. We are the most charitable people in the world.
just becausd someone isnt paid a high min wage doesnt mean they are subsidized by taxpayers
unless you have proof.
Jezcoe
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A minimum of $20 an hour.
If unskilled labor is being paid 20 dollars per hour, then skilled labor will probably be 40 dollars per hour. Still leaving the 20 dollar person in poverty.
Is that because they’re liberals, or is it because they’re not religious? (I’m not reading the article, just curious)
I find religion and charity more intertwined than politics and charity.
Jezcoe
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I am a landlord also.
I get it.
What is happening in NYC when it comes to large commercial spaces isn’t about mom and pop ownership… for the most part anyway… but about large equity companies sitting on vacant stock for a larger pay day.
It is enough of a problem that the city is contemplating a vacancy tax.
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