Interesting reporting in that article.

The kid didn’t hit the intruder until the 12th shot. Report calls him a “crack shot”!

Not taking anything away from the kid. 11 years old. Kept shooting until he nailed the guy. More people need to be defending their homes. More businesses too. The kid is an example to all of us. No, my point was to call out the spin from the reporter.

PS: It is interesting to note that a kid was able to access his parent’s gun in this case. I still contend that he shouldn’t have been able to. It’s also interesting to note that the reporting doesn’t mention anyone else in the house other than the 11-year-old and the intruder. Totally different issue, but I wouldn’t leave an 11-year-old at home alone.

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No it’s not. Leaving your keys out is not the same as providing a teenager with access to a gun.

I’m surprised the school didn’t take more action. I thought there was a nationwide policy of zero tolerance in schools when it came to guns. According to reports, this kid had been making threats for weeks before his parents bought him the gun.

Actually, I’ll amend what I said before about keys and cars.

We lent our car to someone. They took kids to school in the morning. Mom left the car running, in park, got out to walk the 6-year-old to the school door. The 3-year-old who was left in the car climbed from the back seat to the front to “play driver”. He put the car in drive, and it rolled down the street into a fence, which made it come to a stop. No injuries. Not even the 3-year-old. Insurance paid for repairs. The person we lent the car to covered the deductible.

That person effectively left a “loaded gun” for the kid to play with. No harm, no foul in the 1980s (when this happened), but today I would expect the mother would be charged, whether the kid was 3 or 15.

Yes AND no. I was given a 410 for my 10th birthday. Along with that was a lecture on how this is NOT a toy and unless my dad was with me, I was NOT to touch it. Never once had the urge to take it and shoot someone.

It is obvious that his parents failed him. Sounds like they were trying to be his “friend” and not a parent. I can think of NO reason that he should have had access without supervision. And honestly I think his parents were totally blind to his mental state.

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I did the same thing to my grandmother when I was 3. She put me in the car and when she walked around the car I put it in drive just as she grabbed the door handle. Drug her through the greenhouse before the car stopped.

Excuses.
My parents divorced, re-married and divorced again.
I was bullied in school. My first name rhymes with Gay so guess what I was called in Junior AND High school yet I didn’t shoot anyone. I had guns in the house, hell you could pick up .22 ammo at the damn grocery stores. I probably dealt with depression but back then it wasn’t a “thing”.

Again, it is NOT access to guns, if anything it is harder now than ever to legally purchase a gun.

Could it MAYBE be societal issues, we are sooooo worried about offending someone, so now if someone gets offended they lash out. Less respect for life as well, people today are totally surrounded by violence on TV, in movies, in the news, in video games, etc. So it is no shock to me that people resort to violence when their feelings get hurt.

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One can ALSO argue those kids would still be alive if the parents had taken the concerns of the school seriously.

To me it boils down to what I said previously. The parents were more concerned with being his “friend” instead of parents.

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Do business have “the business” of blocking porn?
Using your logic, your business then should be able to see your search history.

Yep. Sometimes playing in the back yard with sticks or bb guns. Sometimes with toy soldiers blowing up each other. And at 12, riding bicycles with a 22 slung across our backs… heading for a farm where we would shoot varmints.

Never a massacre.

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What about personal devices. The kid used his personal cell phone to search for ammo. So you support schools AND businesses to monitor what you do on personal devices??

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And they can… you have no right to privacy at a private corporate

Lol, what is it about twelve? That’s when we moved to bb guns, single pump only and added bottle rockets. It’s amazing we all still have both eyes.

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Would we? Do you secure your car keys? I never did unless I wasn’t home.

Ohhhh I don’t know, MAYBE, and just spit balling here.

Figure out WHY this kid felt he had to kill.

WOW what a novel idea, if the parents had never purchased one, he very well may have found an “alternate source” for getting one, or came up with a different means to kill.

If the parents had taken the threats from the drawing seriously and got the kid some help this possibly wouldn’t have happened.

The common piece here is the INDIVIDUAL who chose to commit extreme violence.

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On my PERSONAL cell phone??
That is what the kid was using searching for ammo IF I understood correctly. HIS cell, not school equipment.

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And people of what political outlook tend have the guns and resort to violence when their feelings are hurt?

KIDS of all outlooks, left and right.

Interesting how you snip out one small part of my post. Kinda kills the context doesn’t it.

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Not at all…When a Conservative goes on about people getting their feelings hurt, they more often than not mean Libs…So I was just pointing out that Conservatives tend to be the gun owners and so they must be the ones lashing out with the guns when their feelings are hurt…

Can we ask in south Chicago?

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