Michigan school shooting

[Eagle-Keeper]

@Guilds

I do not have the solution…there are much more qualified people than me that probably have some good ideas.

Who, the idiots in power? In their multimillion dollar homes, private security, withe their kids in expensive exclusive private schools? Many of whom have no other experience than being in government.

[zantax]

@WuWei

@zantax

I know a few people born to mentally handicapped parents who posssess normal intelligence. Intelligence isn’t straight line inherited like eye color. Too many variables, not remotely a single gene expression.

Actually it is quite inherent. The cognitive ability of the parents is the greatest single predictor of that of the child.

And children aren’t the blank slate at birth we once thought either. See Haidt.

Doesn’t prove its inherited . And certainly doesn’t prove it is absolutely inherent. Works the other way as well, perfectly possible for smart parents to have dumb kids.

[WuWei]

@zantax

Doesn’t prove its inherited . And certainly doesn’t prove it is absolutely inherent. Works the other way as well, perfectly possible for smart parents to have dumb kids.

Granted, the correlation is too strong to attribute to anything else.

Is it? Can you cite an example?

[zantax]

@WuWei

@zantax

@WuWei

@PurpnGold

@WuWei

As are school shooting deaths. Come on man.

More common than an 11 year old, shooting an intruder.

Sure, but not non-existent.

I would guess, there are far more instances of a child using a gun to protect themselves and their families then there are school shooters.

I don’t think so, but I could be wrong.

I think it is. And I think the reason it doesn’t sound right is because one gets far more media coverage then the other. There are very, very few school shooters. An almost absurdly small number.

[WuWei]

You could be right. All I need us one case.

[PurpnGold]

@WuWei

She had the privilege of Ipad access. And you take it away. She ever try to sneak it?

No. But maybe as she get older she’ll try.

@WuWei

It’s punishment. Hell, making her go to bed at all is punishment.

Now you are being ridiculous. But I would also say that what is or isn’t punishment is determined by the individual. Right?

Not sure you can take something someone never had…

[WuWei]

@PurpnGold

No. But maybe as she get older she’ll try.

Then why do you take it?

@PurpnGold

Now you are being ridiculous. But I would also say that what is or isn’t punishment is determined by the individual. Right?

Not sure you can take something someone never had …

Step out of your own context and into hers, tyrant.

[zantax]

@WuWei

@zantax

Doesn’t prove its inherited . And certainly doesn’t prove it is absolutely inherent. Works the other way as well, perfectly possible for smart parents to have dumb kids.

Granted, the correlation is too strong to attribute to anything else.

Is it? Can you cite an example?

From https://genetics.thetech.org/ask-a-geneticist/intelligence-and-genetics

But genetics can explain the wide range of possible IQs too because so many different genes are involved in developing and running a brain. It is possible, for example, to inherit all the higher IQ genes from each parent and leave the lower IQ ones behind. Now the child will be brighter than the parent. And of course the opposite is possible as well resulting in a child with a lower IQ than expected.

When a trait is passed on like this it is called polygenic (many genes). Height is another example of such a trait. Click here to learn more about how these traits are passed on.

There is no single IQ gene.

My children, for example did not inherit my ability to recall everything I read and ace tests without studying.

[WuWei]

@zantax

There is no single IQ gene.

Nor did I say there was.

[WuWei]

The Family

Below 100?

[Guvnah]

@tnt

Instead of expecting teachers and parents to get it right every time, we could address the common feature of these events.

Are you limiting your argument only to “events that involved a gun” ??

The common feature is people out of control.

You’d have to take away all guns – from me and sneaky and Dem and every person across the nation – to BEGIN to stop the next kid or addict or robber or terrorist from shooting up some place in (insert the next location of mayhem.)

[Guvnah]

@WuWei

What other signs?

Over 500 replies in this thread and you are still asking this?

C’mon, man.

[WuWei]

@Guvnah

@WuWei

What other signs?

Over 500 replies in this thread and you are still asking this?

C’mon, man.

Yes.
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[PurpnGold]

@WuWei

Step out of your own context and into hers, tyrant.

You can’t take away something you never had… you do understand this, right?

[Guvnah]

@zantax

And we played war every chance we got.

And if we didn’t have a toy gun for the game, we’d use whatever item was at hand that made for a good pretend gun. Stick. Pencil. Finger.

And as the game progressed, if we came across some new item that made for a better gun, we’d swap it in an instant.

All the same, the Michigan kid wasn’t playing, and people COULD see that. I agree with the teachers in this case.

[WuWei]

@PurpnGold

@WuWei

Step out of your own context and into hers, tyrant.

You can’t take away something you never had… you do understand this, right?

She had it.

"Man is born free but everywhere is in chains.” Rousseau

[Guvnah]

@zantax

Would we be having this same discussion if parents left their car keys accessible and their kid ran over people?

I think we would.

[WuWei]

@Guvnah

@zantax

Would we be having this same discussion if parents left their car keys accessible and their kid ran over people?

I think we would.

Would the parents be charged with manslaughter?

[DisturbedGuy]

@Guvnah

@zantax

Would we be having this same discussion if parents left their car keys accessible and their kid ran over people?

I think we would.

I disagree. A car and a gun have very different purposes. A car can be used as a weapon, but a gun is a weapon.

[WuWei]

@DisturbedGuy

@Guvnah

@zantax

Would we be having this same discussion if parents left their car keys accessible and their kid ran over people?

I think we would.

I disagree. A car and a gun have very different purposes. A car can be used as a weapon, but a gun is a weapon.

A gun can be used as a hammer. That’s a ridiculous argument.