but regarding lawsuits about states electors must conclude on safe harbor day.

then the results are certified and sent to congress

after that there are only congressional challenges allowed.

they results were challenged and rejected by congress.

Allan

Voted for Trump and certainly not a fan of Michigan’s governor or AG. However; if this is true and election crimes were committed, absolutely prosecute.
But let’s be sure to be even handed and prosecute not according to the letter (R)(D) but the law.

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It honestly is quite dangerous to think that politicians, if they disapprove of an election’s results, can simply forge a document claiming a different result and submit it. Especially when it comes to Presidential elections and electoral counts.

Now, some of the 16 people charged are small time Pols or Mayors who were sort of roped into doing this because the electors assigned to the task, if Trump had won, backed out of doing this. They needed “fill ins” to take their place and one of them is 82 years old, for God’s sake. I think the ringleaders need to be held fully accountable but if some of the late additions want to plea deal, I don’t think they should serve time. They should just cooperate with the AG in prosecuting the worst actors in this nonsense.

I also think it was smart of Nessel not to bother with the National figures who coordinated this between seven different states. They obviously printed all of the forms and just sent them to the states to sign, they are all similarly worded and use the same fonts. Jack Smith can handle those folks, which will probably include Romney’s daughter, who was in the center of it all.

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One thing we know for sure: They were not electors.

There are - and those procedures do not include a bunch of fake Republican electors committing perjury and pretending to be “duly elected.”

This shouldn’t even be a question - perjury is perjury.

There appears to be nothing that a Republican can do (in the service of Trump) that you guys won’t defend.

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It is interesting that multiple folks who are being charged were plaintiffs in the frivolous lawsuit that was dismissed and the lawyers were sanctioned by a judge.

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From the article:

“When government officials use their positions to target and oppress certain groups and individuals, it sets a dangerous precedent that undermines principles of our representative government and our civil liberties,” said Malinda Pego, the co-chair of the state party.

So now we are going to hear the line again about government officials using their position to target certain folks. What will be interesting is what some folks will say if any of these folks are found guilty of a crime.

Gore went through court cases until the Supreme Court ruled to stop the recount in Florida and give the election to Bush. Gore then stood down, saying that was best for the country.

In this instance, we have people who are alleged to have signed false legal documents. There is no equivalence to be seen here.

Agreed, this is a very clear line they have crossed. I am sort of flummoxed that no other state AG has pressed charges to this point, how was this not addressed almost immediately?

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::+1:t4:

it exactly what happened, bush v gore was decided.

gore conceded

and then on electoral vote count day. he opened and counted the electoral votes and declared Bush the winner.

Allan

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I am a bit confused. How can anyone have an issue with fraudulent electors being prosecuted?

I am no expert on the electoral college but I assume you cannot just say you are an elector and then as if by magic you are an elector.

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That is easy to say but it depends on which party is in power as to who gets charged.

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I was agreeing with that!

Again:

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Not even half what the Democrats did and are doing.

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That makes no sense. Again I will ask do you think those that are being charged with acting fraudulently as electors did not do anything wrong?

Its a simple yes or no answer.

You can be certain that won 't happen.

Irrelevant to the OP. You don’t get it. Maybe don’t want to…

Why do you say that?