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TheRedComet · 2024-06-10T15:52:29.714Z

To think that a two state solution can work in Israel is ignorant. The Palestinians don’t want it and Israelis aren’t going to throw their security away to try it.

Gaius · 2024-06-10T16:02:00.834Z

TheRedComet:

To think that a two state solution can work in Israel is ignorant.

How would a 2 state solution be different than Oct 6?

Gazans gleefully and happily elects Hamas.
Hamas attacks a concert full of teenagers and slaughters everyone.

No. If that is who the Palestinians elect then there will be no solution and no peace as long as Palestinians have a voice in their own government.

gooddad409 · 2024-06-10T16:07:29.260Z

Smyrna:

Oryx:

Nikki Haley is the lesser of three evils, and in my mind there is no question about that.

Nikki is more of the same and does not have the tenacity to address and combat our nation’s problems.

Which is why so many dems supported her in the primaries.

Like McCain and Romney before her if she was the nominee they would go back to the dem party in the general.

We are supposed to be too stupid to notice such things.

Plus she is like Lindsey Graham as regards war.

Guilds · 2024-06-10T16:17:19.644Z

Smyrna:

You see…that’s another example of you not even knowing how much you do not know. I do not have any accounts in any social media and NEVER have. You just made another uniformed, idiotic conclusion.

Yet you post multiple videos from influencers from Youtube. I believe you follow many of them.

Same thing.

Guilds · 2024-06-10T16:20:07.573Z

TheRedComet:

To think that a two state solution can work in Israel is ignorant. The Palestinians don’t want it and Israelis aren’t going to throw their security away to try it.

That is your opinion…and as I have said, you very may well be correct. Other people smarter than you and I may disagree with you.

TheRedComet · 2024-06-10T17:11:19.061Z

It’s a fact man. A two state solution will never work for them. Unless Palestinian culture suddenly changes overnight and they start seeing their Jewish neighbors as legitimate people instead of farm animals.

FreeAndClear · 2024-06-10T17:47:35.442Z

Smyrna:

Guilds:

No hypocrisy.
I do not use social media to stay informed.

Smyrna does, as he believes they tell the truth, vs other more established/reliable sources.

RW media has created an alternative reality, that many rely on for their information. They know their audience, and are making a lot of money. Sadly, there are a lot of people believing those falsehoods

You see…that’s another example of you not even knowing how much you do not know. I do not have any accounts in any social media and NEVER have. You just made another uniformed, idiotic conclusion.

Cheers.

YouTube is social media

But the above post explains a lot. You truly actually believe that what you are watching is unbiased independent analysis available only to those who can perceive the message.

TommyLucchese · 2024-06-10T17:56:52.016Z

TheRedComet:

It’s a fact man. A two state solution will never work for them. Unless Palestinian culture suddenly changes overnight and they start seeing their Jewish neighbors as legitimate people instead of farm animals.

The Israelis will be lucky if they have any choice in the matter by the end.

They shouldn’t have signed the Oslo Accords if their plan was to pen Arabs up like animals and let ultra orthodox home-invade them for political support when the army isn’t dropping artillery on them for throwing rocks in “peacetime.”

TommyLucchese · 2024-06-10T17:59:56.406Z

The Mexicans at least aren’t cosplaying like the residents of certain nations I could name when they say they’re risking their lives against oppression.

TheRedComet · 2024-06-10T18:11:32.610Z

So the Palestinians have no blame for why Oslo completely fell apart? The Second Intifada doesn’t matter?

Both sides made guarantees to the other. The Israelis promised them a state made out of the occupied territories and the Palestinians promised not to do terrorism.

Based on the history, I’d say both sides failed to live up to their guarantees.

TommyLucchese · 2024-06-10T18:33:09.006Z

TheRedComet:

So the Palestinians have no blame for why Oslo completely fell apart? The Second Intifada doesn’t matter?

Both sides made guarantees to the other. The Israelis promised them a state made out of the occupied territories and the Palestinians promised not to do terrorism.

Based on the history, I’d say both sides failed to live up to their guarantees.

I didn’t say they didn’t. I’m just saying that these arguments aren’t very much different than Soitb Africa and the bantustans. Even if the internal political divisions they intentionally set up to fail governmentally failed like they planned, eventually the South Africans went too far and turned the entire planet against them.

Israel is now very close to that spot, and the only thing stopping it is the US using their veto on the Security Council and pretty soon that’s not gonna be enough either.

Smyrna · 2024-06-10T19:58:53.533Z

Guilds:

Yet you post multiple videos from influencers from Youtube. I believe you follow many of them.

Same thing.

“influencers”

I’ve posted articles from independent journalists for years because I recognize the current media outlets are nothing but sheople troughs. Remember Andy Ngo? I introduced him years ago when there was so much excitement in Portland. He was on the front line, showing the reality of what was happening. That’s what I like…the truth.

Smyrna · 2024-06-10T20:03:01.562Z

FreeAndClear:

YouTube is social media

But the above post explains a lot. You truly actually believe that what you are watching is unbiased independent analysis available only to those who can perceive the message.

It wasn’t when I began using them to locate local, independent journalists years ago. What social media people like yourself now label them may have changed but I haven’t.

FreeAndClear · 2024-06-10T20:16:16.844Z

What social media people.

Don’t assume.

You use social media as your primary source of news. You just don’t realize it despite your claims to perceive things that others refuse to.

Smyrna · 2024-06-10T20:45:45.623Z

FreeAndClear:

What social media people.

Don’t assume.

You use social media as your primary source of news. You just don’t realize it despite your claims to perceive things that others refuse to.

I’m sorry that was too deep. Youtube may be labeled “social media” now but it wasn’t when I began using them. As I said, I have NEVER had a social media account…period.

Question; how is it you can possibly have the time to be on this site for so many hours/day?

FreeAndClear · 2024-06-10T21:52:09.479Z

Of course it was social media from its inception

This forum is also social media.

You just don’t understand what the term means and that’s fine.

The premise of your question is wrong. Otherwise i have been prettu open about what i do. This place is my respite and stress relief and at this point an obvious addiction. Because somebody is always wrong on the internet and this is the only place that i play.

It’s also the only place i scroll. Those who actually know what constitute social media will understand that

Guilds · 2024-06-10T23:46:59.266Z

Smyrna:

I’ve posted articles from independent journalists

That is the problem…they are not journalists…they are people pushing an opinion/agenda…and seek out any evidence they can find, and when they can’t, thay make it up, or distort the truth…in an attempt authenticate their agenda.

O’keefe got famous and rich doing that, with conservative backers…and a whole bunch of people emulated his tactics.

And you swallow it all…as it fits your agenda.

TheRedComet · 2024-06-10T23:49:21.332Z

So in other words journalists?

We’ve degraded a long way from people like Cronkite.

Guilds · 2024-06-10T23:59:07.049Z

TheRedComet:

So in other words journalists?

We’ve degraded a long way from people like Cronkite.

Today’s media sucks…

There are still good investigative journalists, but it does not sell, so they do not get the exposure they deserve.

Jon Stewart nailed the media perfectly, and their inability to actually do their job.
Watch the Daily show on 6-3.

TheRedComet · 2024-06-11T00:47:07.525Z

I’ve been a Stewart fan since I was like 14. Dude is smart, generally balanced, and makes one laugh hysterically while he does it.

And I will say that enjoy The Atlantic’s (not balanced at all) investigative journalism. That’s like the one part of my Apple News Plus subscription I take advantage of.