thats not the only reason but it’s true
the studies exist that say they dont do jack too
thats not the only reason but it’s true
the studies exist that say they dont do jack too
oh yeah i love their “they dont bother you so do what youre told” narrative
amazing how people were literally conned into wearing a personal medical device by force
well, the sheep left anyway. some parts of the country where freedom still exists no masks were worn or mandatory and they had best results with virus
oh well enough about science
Mmmm Hmmmm…
Das’ right!
Speaking of science:
And that’s just the reported cases, from a year ago. It’s probably over half.
I had a great time last year hanging out with people over several states, buying cheap gas for travel, becoming a paramotor pilot, upgrading the homestead with lumber projects, swimming at Lake Ozarks, etc…
Bitter people stayed home and did as their masters told them.
wow. but i did hear the chinese designed it to be spread asymptomatically.
I was either asymptomatic, or the Kung Flu is too lightweight to handle my weed. lol
Acute Respiratory Distress Syndrome (ARDS) causes up to 40% mortality in humans and is difficult to treat. ARDS is also one of the major triggers of mortality associated with coronavirus-induced disease (COVID-19). We used a mouse model of ARDS...
ha. figures
Yes, you are breathing CO2 back wash…
Yes, you are breathing CO2 back wash…
and the jackass left doesnt even care that this affects children
idiots
SottoVoce: thinkingman: SottoVoce:Masks are effective. Especially when compared to no facial covering.
yeah i keep hearing this but dont see any credible evidence they help in a pandemic
and there’s 0 evidence they help kids who arent even hardly affected by the virus and dont spread it either
kids in masks is just more idiotic leftist child abuse
sorry i’m aware of this and that i keep disseminating these truths.
There have been multiple high quality studies showing the efficacy of face masks in the prevention of COVID spread posted to this site. Several times. Kids can be affected by the virus and most definitely can spread the virus. I could post data but it would be dismissed.
Truth comes from objective repeatable data. That has been shared here. It has been rejected by those who disagree not on merit but on the overwhelming desire to be correct.
what you think is “data” and “truth” are not anything like that at all
“several” is a statistically low amount and doesn’t justify torturing the vast majority of children with muzzles across their face all day. it’s stupid. esp since all the precious “studies” you guys pretend exist dont while ignoring studies that show they dont do squat
what a sick stupid society to make kids go around in masks
just more ways the idiot left ruins life on earth
Specifically, what data would be needed to prove to you that masks aid in preventing the spread of COVID? Specifically, what data would be needed to prove to you that masks do not pose a health risk?
SottoVoce:wear a mask for hours each day. I’ve been doing so for decades. I did so before the pandemic. People have been wearing masks for much longer than that. It has been studied time and time again. Over a half century of data. A simple surgical mask has zero physiologic impact. N95 masks under all but the most strenuous of situations or on those with severe underlying respiratory disease have no physiologic impact.
It’s interesting that people have been wearing masks long before the pandemic but now there are a slew of armchair biophysicists who want to find a problem. Decades and decades to raise concern for all those healthcare workers and immunocompromised who are required to wear masks and not a peep. Any excuse not to wear a mask, I get it.
If masks have no deleterious impact as you ostensibly imply the why do I and others I know as well fell a heck of a lot better when we take it off?
No clue. Not used to it? Don’t like smelling your own breath? Not being able to tolerate something because you don’t like how it makes you feel doesn’t mean it’s bad for you.
Specifically, what data would be needed to prove to you that masks aid in preventing the spread of COVID? Specifically, what data would be needed to prove to you that masks do not pose a health risk?
anything that shows a causal relationship is a good start
like this doesnt
Well would you lookie here?
Walach, the lead author of the mask paper cited in this thread, had another of his papers retracted from Vaccines because of poor interpretation of data, faulty math, and outright misinformation.
The study, based on misrepresented safety data, argued that vaccines would kill two people for every three lives they saved.
Of course, the True Believers will claim this is Deep State Pushback.
You understand, don’t you, that this is not the complete set of data you would need to make a conclusion one way or the other?
You understand, don’t you, that this is not the complete set of data you would need to make a conclusion one way or the other?
yes i do
thanks for asking
JayJay:You understand, don’t you, that this is not the complete set of data you would need to make a conclusion one way or the other?
yes i do
thanks for asking
Then why did you post it and say “this doesn’t show a causal effect”?
Of course it doesn’t…because it’s not all the data one needs.
thinkingman: JayJay:You understand, don’t you, that this is not the complete set of data you would need to make a conclusion one way or the other?
yes i do
thanks for asking
Then why did you post it and say “this doesn’t show a causal effect”?
Of course it doesn’t…because it’s not all the data one needs.
that’s right it doesnt.
and i didnt say it is conclusive
do you have something conclusive?
it’s never simple or easy to get to conclusions in science esp on complex systems. unless of course it’s the most complex and unpredictable of systems like global warming then the “science is in”
but let’s not drag pure politics into this
SottoVoce:Specifically, what data would be needed to prove to you that masks aid in preventing the spread of COVID? Specifically, what data would be needed to prove to you that masks do not pose a health risk?
anything that shows a causal relationship is a good start
like this doesnt
I’m curious, what’s your point in posting these two traps? What are you trying to get across to the reader?