Who decides which side of the conversation is “wrong?”
Correct and as of right now, discriminating based on sex and gender is against the law. Our society decided that. If you wish for your society to change it, you are going to need to get more people on your side that enjoy discrimination.
tnt
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Laws are a reflection of attitudes. As people’s attitudes change they elect people who write or retract laws that reflect those changes.
You don’t think attitudes toward biracial marriages have changed?
Gender identity is generally set by age 3-5.
conan
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So being sexual deviant is social norm, is that what you’re saying PG?
conan
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No Jay…not ignorance. Ignorance is attempting to warp your child to alienate social conservatives. That’s not only ignorant but sick.
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conan
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So…I wonder if they’re at fault in their upbringing.
I don’t think that tracks with reality. For starters gender dysphoria peaks around the time that secondary sex characteristics start to appear, so that seems to me to imply its the body that’s causing the dysphoria and not social. Also, androgyny is not an alien concept, especially in queer circles. So if a person doesn’t feel there gender identity conflicts with their biological sex but that they aren’t comfortable with the expectations society places on people based on their gender, there are plenty of avenues for them to explore this without taking the extreme path of transitioning, especially with drugs and surgery.
Teaching the rejected person how to handle rejection but remain true to their sex-gender, while embracing their birth sex is the solution.
Except that doesn’t seem to work.
Wouldn’t there be a lot less transgender kids with unaccepting parents were that the case?
Is it a parent’s right to beat their child up because they’re gay?
conan
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I’m going to guess most of them are rebelling…others have their reason of their own.
Either way my guess is most transgenders have freaks for parents.
What are you rambling on about?
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That’s what woke libs are trying to make it. Social “norm”. 
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I’m going to guess that their gender identity doesn’t match their natal sex.
Of course you would guess that. You tend to have a extremely warped view of those you disagree with.
Parental rights.
Guntsu
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Yeah I don’t think that’s it…at least with my parents we all grew up to be successful professionals just that one of my brothers is gay.
We have great parents, grew up in a traditional Christian home my mother never worked until we were all grown and gone.
He went through “pray away gay” what my parents viewed as therapy like a lot of folks here they were convinced this was a choice. The pressure was intense after all he was going to hell if he did not change.
Married a female, kept the charade going for a bit before it all came crashing down.
I used to believe the same, he is making a choice and a stupid one. It was only after the immense suffering and shame he was put through and he tried extremely hard to change that I realized no one would choose this.
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Or maybe they’re just born that way.
My trans friend came from a doting family who lavished on their daughter. She had an idealized childhood, educated at an ivy league school, yet she says she never once felt like a girl. Not once in her life, even from her earliest memories. Her mom always tried to get her to be more “girly” and died never truly knowing her child. I wish you all could spend some time talking to these individuals instead of pigeonholing them into some convienient box. I was just as ignorant until I found the best friend I ever had 10 years ago.
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