Salem Witch Trials- not applicable here.

Manafort was promised a pardon, and he got it.

:thinking::roll_eyes::rofl:

You? I don’t think so. Trump, OTOH, is scared ■■■■ less.

WTH are you even talking about? You aren’t making sense.

Grievance posting from the angry base that just can’t seem to catch a break.

2 Likes

Oh ■■■■■

Preparation. Good boy/girl, whatever.

"The ability to control a defendant’s sentencing exposure by manipu­lating the charges against him—that is to say, the ability to charge bargain—is widely recognized by scholars as “the core of prosecutorial power in the United States.”22 The practice itself is simple enough to describe: A criminal defendant’s sentencing exposure is a function of his likelihood of conviction and his likely sentence if convicted. Those two factors, in turn, are heavily influenced by the charges he faces, which define the possible grounds for conviction, the maximum potential sentence, and frequently the minimum sentence as well.23 A charge bargain is thus simply an agreement to replace a higher charge with a lower one in exchange for the defendant’s promise to plead guilty, which guarantees the prosecutor a conviction without the expense of trial.24

Yet while such an exchange may sound like an actual bargain, with each party gaining, to quote the Supreme Court, a “mutuality of advantage” from the deal,25 most knowledgeable observers describe it as something else: a fundamentally coercive practice (occasionally analogized to torture) that produces involuntary pleas, sometimes to crimes the defendant did not commit.26 The core problem is twofold. First, while defendants always want to minimize their potential sentences, prosecutors rarely want to maximize them, hoping instead to obtain only their preferred sentence, in the most efficient way possible.27 This asymmetry allows prosecutors to trade away “extra” years of incarceration that the defendant desperately wants to avoid but that the prosecutor doesn’t particularly value. As for the second problem: This free leverage is typically overwhelming, because most criminal codes authorize sentences much higher than what a typical prosecutor—or a typical person, for that matter—would actually want to see imposed in a given case.28 Thus, by threatening a seriously inflated set of charges and then offering to replace it with the charges that she truly desires, the prosecutor is able to control the defendant’s incentive to plead guilty, and with it the outcome of any subsequent “negotiation.”29 In the aggregate, prosecutors so empowered can obtain more convictions, with longer sentences, at lower costs—all preconditions for mass incarceration.30

In practice, charge manipulation involves three interrelated moves. First, the prosecutor can inflate the quantity of charges the defendant faces, by piling on overlapping, largely duplicative offenses—increasing with each new charge the defendant’s potential sentence, his risk of conviction, and the “sticker shock” of intimidation that accompanies a hefty charging instrument.31 Second, the prosecutor can achieve similar effects by inflating the substance of the charges themselves, overreaching beyond what the law, the evidence, or the equities of the case support.32 Finally, after deploying these tactics to “jack up the threat value of trial,”33 the prosecutor can capitalize on the ensuing leverage by sliding down from her initial threat to the lower set of charges that she actually prefers. Indeed, it is the difference between the threat and the subsequent offer that constitutes the prosecutor’s power: The larger the differential, the more likely the defendant is to plead guilty—whether he is in fact guilty or not.34 person, for that matter—would actually want to see imposed in a given case.28 Thus, by threatening a seriously inflated set of charges and then offering to replace it with the charges that she truly desires, the prosecutor is able to control the defendant’s incentive to plead guilty, and with it the outcome of any subsequent “negotiation.”29 In the aggregate, prosecutors so empowered can obtain more convictions, with longer sentences, at lower costs—all preconditions for mass incarceration.30

In practice, charge manipulation involves three interrelated moves. First, the prosecutor can inflate the quantity of charges the defendant faces, by piling on overlapping, largely duplicative offenses—increasing with each new charge the defendant’s potential sentence, his risk of conviction, and the “sticker shock” of intimidation that accompanies a hefty charging instrument.31 Second, the prosecutor can achieve similar effects by inflating the substance of the charges themselves, overreaching beyond what the law, the evidence, or the equities of the case support.32 Finally, after deploying these tactics to “jack up the threat value of trial,”33 the prosecutor can capitalize on the ensuing leverage by sliding down from her initial threat to the lower set of charges that she actually prefers. Indeed, it is the difference between the threat and the subsequent offer that constitutes the prosecutor’s power: The larger the differential, the more likely the defendant is to plead guilty—whether he is in fact guilty or not.34

To make these three moves more concrete, consider a straightforward example, to which we will return throughout the discussion to follow: Imagine a defendant suspected of approaching someone on a street corner at night, of pointing a gun at that person, of ordering them to move a few steps to the left (out from under a streetlamp), and, finally, of taking their wallet and running off with it. To any lay observer, the crime alleged here is straightforward: armed robbery. And yet, in practice, a prosecutor could and routinely would commence a prosecution against such a defendant by piling on a host of additional charges, including (to list just some examples) aggravated assault, theft, threats, possession of a weapon, and using a firearm during a crime of violence.35 Moreover, given the defendant’s alleged command to move out from under the streetlamp, the prosecutor might also overreach, tacking on the far more serious but questionably applicable charge of kidnapping for good measure.36 Finally, bringing her leverage to bear, the prosecutor would then offer to slide down from these inflated charges to the charge that she—and she alone—deems appropriate, based on her personal assessment of the evidence and of the defendant’s culpability: Plead guilty to a single count of armed robbery, she tells the defendant—or, even more enticingly, to misdemeanor counts of theft and possession of a weapon—and everything else will go away.37"

https://columbialawreview.org/content/the-hidden-law-of-plea-bargaining/

Plea bargaining is a croc ripe for abuse

You really are unaware of how high and in depth this united corruption goes…

Sounds quite logical. Thanks for that expertise.

Nobody wants jail time.
Especialy when you lose unjustly.

Hoowee I knew it was coming but dang…

Trump on TruthSocial:

“I don’t think Mark Meadows would lie about the Rigged and Stollen 2020 Presidential Election merely for getting IMMUNITY against Prosecution (PERSECUTION!) by Deranged Prosecutor, Jack Smith. BUT, when you really think about it, after being hounded like a dog for three years, told you’ll be going to jail for the rest of your life, your money and your family will be forever gone, and we’re not at all interested in exposing those that did the RIGGING — If you say BAD THINGS about that terrible “MONSTER,” DONALD J. TRUMP, we won’t put you in prison, you can keep your family and your wealth, and, perhaps, if you can make up some really horrible “STUFF” a out him, we may very well erect a statue of you in the middle of our decaying and now very violent Capital, Washington, D.C. Some people would make that deal, but they are weaklings and cowards, and so bad for the future our Failing Nation. I don’t think that Mark Meadows is one of them, but who really knows? MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!!!”

This isn’t a plea agreement. This is immunity in exchange for testimony.

Now… why would Mark Meadows need immunity?

1 Like

You’re as fine as you’re ever going to be anyway.

That’s not true.

That’s not true. “Wouldn’t have chamged the outcome!”

How can you prove that?

The same way you can about all the accusations of voter fraud, etc

Considering that most of the alleged offenses occurred at about the same time, at the end of his term, which wasn’t really that long before the charges were brought, it’s not improbable at all. What’s improbable is that a president would be such a sleaze bucket, and that so many stupid and gullible people would continue to support him despite his obvious crimin’.

3 Likes