Masking for Evah!

[Borgia_dude]

@thinkingman

@altair1013

@thinkingman

oh it’s “trump’s” vaccine now

No. Not now. Operation warp speed was Trump’s from the beginning. How did you miss is?

i agree

they said it take at least 5 yrs

took a business savvy get-it-done type to make that happen, vs a 50 yr in politics politician in twilight

you should thank him

Those years predictions were based on historical development time for other vaccines. Luckily, we have advanced since then as computers are much stronger and vaccine technology has evolved. Those are the reasons why we have a vaccine so fast compared to prior vaccines. As you can see, Trump didn’t have anything to do with that.

But Trump did help clear the way for approval and distribution which did speed things up so I am happy to give him credit there. Thanks Trump.

[thinkingman]

@Borgia_dude

@thinkingman

@altair1013

@thinkingman

oh it’s “trump’s” vaccine now

No. Not now. Operation warp speed was Trump’s from the beginning. How did you miss is?

i agree

they said it take at least 5 yrs

took a business savvy get-it-done type to make that happen, vs a 50 yr in politics politician in twilight

you should thank him

Those years predictions were based on historical development time for other vaccines. Luckily, we have advanced since then as computers are much stronger and vaccine technology has evolved. Those are the reasons why we have a vaccine so fast compared to prior vaccines. As you can see, Trump didn’t have anything to do with that.

But Trump did help clear the way for approval and distribution which did speed things up so I am happy to give him credit there. Thanks Trump.

fair enough. i agree.

[RTchoke]

@NJBob

@altair1013

@NJBob

Full approval is probably only a few months out. Will you support mandatory vaccinations then?

Nobody has a right to inject somebody with a foreign substance who does not want to be injected with it. If somebody gets Covid at this point, it’s on them. I’m not worrying for them. Nobody should.

Schools require multiple vaccinations now, only a matter of time until Covid vaccinations are required too.

Schools also have an opt-out form parents can sign. Quit spreading the falsehood that ALL children are mandated to be vaccinated before they can attend school.

[NJBob]

@RTchoke

@NJBob

@altair1013

@NJBob

Full approval is probably only a few months out. Will you support mandatory vaccinations then?

Nobody has a right to inject somebody with a foreign substance who does not want to be injected with it. If somebody gets Covid at this point, it’s on them. I’m not worrying for them. Nobody should.

Schools require multiple vaccinations now, only a matter of time until Covid vaccinations are required too.

Schools also have an opt-out form parents can sign. Quit spreading the falsehood that ALL children are mandated to be vaccinated before they can attend school.

Did I say ALL? Of course there are exceptions made in some cases but those are likely going to become harder to get. And those kids that aren’t vaccinated are protected by the fact that most kids are vaccinated.

Why is it important to you paint what I said as a falsehood when it’s not.

[JayJay]

It’s probably not going to happen until COVID is fully approved.

Not sure you can mandate something that’s still under EUA only.

I mean I guess legally one can, but most businesses, at least, have been hanging back for fear of lawsuits.

[RTchoke]

@NJBob

@RTchoke

@NJBob

@altair1013

@NJBob

Full approval is probably only a few months out. Will you support mandatory vaccinations then?

Nobody has a right to inject somebody with a foreign substance who does not want to be injected with it. If somebody gets Covid at this point, it’s on them. I’m not worrying for them. Nobody should.

Schools require multiple vaccinations now, only a matter of time until Covid vaccinations are required too.

Schools also have an opt-out form parents can sign. Quit spreading the falsehood that ALL children are mandated to be vaccinated before they can attend school.

Did I say ALL? Of course there are exceptions made in some cases but those are likely going to become harder to get. And those kids that aren’t vaccinated are protected by the fact that most kids are vaccinated.

Why is it important to you paint what I said as a falsehood when it’s not.

You said “schools require multiple vaccinations now”. You did not say some, you did not say most. When said in that phrasing, it implies all.

[NJBob]

@RTchoke

@NJBob

@RTchoke

@NJBob

@altair1013

@NJBob

Full approval is probably only a few months out. Will you support mandatory vaccinations then?

Nobody has a right to inject somebody with a foreign substance who does not want to be injected with it. If somebody gets Covid at this point, it’s on them. I’m not worrying for them. Nobody should.

Schools require multiple vaccinations now, only a matter of time until Covid vaccinations are required too.

Schools also have an opt-out form parents can sign. Quit spreading the falsehood that ALL children are mandated to be vaccinated before they can attend school.

Did I say ALL? Of course there are exceptions made in some cases but those are likely going to become harder to get. And those kids that aren’t vaccinated are protected by the fact that most kids are vaccinated.

Why is it important to you paint what I said as a falsehood when it’s not.

You said “schools require multiple vaccinations now”. You did not say some, you did not say most. When said in that phrasing, it implies all.

Sure, schools require multiple vaccinations as all states require MMR at a minimum. I didn’t say all kids must be vaccinated.

[NJBob]

It’s only a matter of months now. Moderna and Pfizer should have full approval before December.

[RTchoke]

@NJBob

@RTchoke

@NJBob

@RTchoke

@NJBob

@altair1013

@NJBob

Full approval is probably only a few months out. Will you support mandatory vaccinations then?

Nobody has a right to inject somebody with a foreign substance who does not want to be injected with it. If somebody gets Covid at this point, it’s on them. I’m not worrying for them. Nobody should.

Schools require multiple vaccinations now, only a matter of time until Covid vaccinations are required too.

Schools also have an opt-out form parents can sign. Quit spreading the falsehood that ALL children are mandated to be vaccinated before they can attend school.

Did I say ALL? Of course there are exceptions made in some cases but those are likely going to become harder to get. And those kids that aren’t vaccinated are protected by the fact that most kids are vaccinated.

Why is it important to you paint what I said as a falsehood when it’s not.

You said “schools require multiple vaccinations now”. You did not say some, you did not say most. When said in that phrasing, it implies all.

Sure, schools require multiple vaccinations as all states require MMR at a minimum. I didn’t say all kids must be vaccinated.

Don’t trip walking backwards like that.

[NJBob]

I’m consistent in what I said and what I meant.

[RTchoke]

Sure you are/were.

[NJBob]

I’m sure you honestly believe that I wasn’t. That’s Okay, you believe what you like.

[JayJay]

@altair1013

@NJBob

Full approval is probably only a few months out. Will you support mandatory vaccinations then?

Nobody has a right to inject somebody with a foreign substance who does not want to be injected with it. If somebody gets Covid at this point, it’s on them. I’m not worrying for them. Nobody should.

Except plenty of vaccines are mandatory for school attendance (yes I know about the opt outs) and no one complained before.

But this of course is different…

[Samm]

@Conservative_frk

You can “ opt out” of vaccines for your children for many different reasons depending on where you live.

How do you feel about people who have one kidney for instance? Those people do not get the Covid vaccine. Should they be forced to get it? Should those people lose their jobs? Should they be denied air travel? Denied an education?

While people with kidney problems are at greater risk from COVID-19, there is no indication that the vaccine causes problems for people with one kidney, regardless if they are the doner or recipient. This is from the National Kidney Foundation:

"Should I get the vaccine?

Most doctors agree that the benefits of the COVID-19 vaccine for people with kidney disease at any stage, including those on dialysis and those with a kidney transplant, are much greater than the risk of serious complications from the virus than from the vaccine.

Dialysis patients who contract COVID-19 are at extremely high risk of short-term mortality, possibly higher than 20 percent.

The National Kidney Foundation, American Society of Nephrology, and American Society of Transplantation all recommend that people with kidney disease or kidney transplant be vaccinated for COVID-19."

Getting the COVID-19 Vaccine, What Kidney Patients Need to Know | National Kidney Foundation

[westaussie]

No, it does not imply all.

[Conservative_frk]

That might be what you find online, but that is not what the nephrologist that treats my husband says.

[RTchoke]

Sure it does.

But I’m sure he appreciates the wingman.

[Samm]

@Conservative_frk

That might be what you find online, but that is not what the nephrologist that treats my husband says.

Do you have a source that supports the Dr. or is that merely his personal opinion?

[Conservative_frk]

We have done our research.

[Samm]

So then, let us see it.