Mark Levin Blasts Trump Taxation (Tariffs) of American Public

reflechissez · 2018-06-13T15:54:55.941Z

Hellsbane:

No, the way to go is through renegotiation of trade deals. Threatening tariffs is a good incentive for the parties to grab their seat at the table. The US, as the #1 consumer country in the world, has far less to lose in a trade war.

You act like we don’t export anything.

NebraskaFootball · 2018-06-13T16:00:10.823Z

Roxiebelle:

Anyone who actually listens to Levin would have predicted this since he has always been against tariffs & the possibility of a trade war, he has been talking about it for years so its no surprise to me at all that he disagrees with POTUS.

Of course. Because he is a fiscal conservative. Something that Trump is diametrically opposed to. Likewise with his supporters. They clearly believe that the government should tax American consumers and businesses more and more and more and more. Just like big government liberals. Birds of a feather.

biggestal99 · 2018-06-13T16:23:38.956Z

If Obama was was doing the Tariffs, Levin would be against and all the Rs here would be roiling against Obama.

But since its trump and he’s MAGA, he gets support.

weird huh.

Allan

biggestal99 · 2018-06-13T16:26:29.900Z

I generally disagree with Levin.

But he’s dead on here.

as momma told me a blind squirrel finds a acorn once in a while

tariffs and trade wars are lets all say together,bad despite what out beloved president says,

Allan

CaughtInTheMiddle · 2018-06-13T18:15:19.179Z

wonderingrover:

To be honest, as high as the stock market is, I am genuinely worried about just how bad it’s going to be when the bubble bursts.

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Hellsbane · 2018-06-13T18:53:52.387Z

We import far more than we export.

Hellsbane · 2018-06-13T18:55:47.012Z

Yea, you are right about us, thats why we got behind Trump in his tax increases… oh… wait…

wonderingrover · 2018-06-13T19:03:07.258Z

Hellsbane:

Yea, you are right about us, thats why we got behind Trump in his tax increases… oh… wait…

I wonder which will be greater - the income tax savings, or the increased cost of goods due to taxation by tariffs? Time will tell. The net effect on disposable income will be the best measure of where people actually are in the long run.

NebraskaFootball · 2018-06-13T19:03:09.798Z

Hellsbane:

Yea, you are right about us, thats why we got behind Trump in his tax increases… oh… wait…

Okay, then why did you get behind Trump and these tax increases on Americans and American businesses?

NebraskaFootball · 2018-06-13T19:04:34.731Z

wonderingrover:

I wonder which will be greater - the income tax savings, or the increased cost of goods due to taxation by tariffs? Time will tell. The net effect on disposable income will be the best measure of where people actually are in the long run.

Seeing as how we have been down this road before, we already know it is the increased cost of goods. And more than that, it will be coupled with a substantial loss of jobs across a whole slew of industries.

PeterGriffin · 2018-06-13T19:08:09.173Z

Illegal_Alien:

■■■■■■■■, many Liberals here have disagreed just because who said it or where it is coming from. big example is Trump he has done things that Liberals should approve of but because it is Trump they don’t like it.
Both Sides do it.

Example(s)?

wonderingrover · 2018-06-13T19:08:59.967Z

NebraskaFootball:

wonderingrover:

I wonder which will be greater - the income tax savings, or the increased cost of goods due to taxation by tariffs? Time will tell. The net effect on disposable income will be the best measure of where people actually are in the long run.

Seeing as how we have been down this road before, we already know it is the increased cost of goods. And more than that, it will be coupled with a substantial loss of jobs across a whole slew of industries.

Yeah, that’s kind of what I was getting at.

Although, I guess - looking at it from a different perspective, you have to have income to have income tax due. So, I guess that presents another way to save on income tax. Though, quite honestly, I don’t find that a good alternative …

NebraskaFootball · 2018-06-13T19:10:04.012Z

wonderingrover:

Yeah, that’s kind of what I was getting at.

Although, I guess - looking at it from a different perspective, you have to have income to have income tax due. So, I guess that presents another way to save on income tax. Though, quite honestly, I don’t find that a good alternative …

Perhaps that is what they are going with here?

Hellsbane · 2018-06-13T19:12:10.439Z

We need a new trade deal. The current ones are not working for us and costing us far more in our manufacturing base than any increase in cost of imported goods. Manufacturing incomes are a lot better than the incomes of bugger flippers.

NebraskaFootball · 2018-06-13T19:16:06.509Z

Hellsbane:

We need a new trade deal. The current ones are not working for us and costing us far more in our manufacturing base than any increase in cost of imported goods. Manufacturing incomes are a lot better than the incomes of bugger flippers.

Okay. So a new trade deal would require negotiations to achieve said trade deal. How does supporting an increase in taxation on Americans and American businesses achieve a negotiated trade deal?

Hellsbane · 2018-06-13T19:26:12.115Z

W
Leave it at " tariffs " and stop trying to push hype. Applying tariffs will work to force new trade deals with those countries that have been shafting us. Better than we currently have. Dwindling manufacturing, lower wages, higher cost of goods (due to THEIR tariffs and cost of goods caps they have our goods)

wonderingrover · 2018-06-13T19:30:14.860Z

I’m thinking they should require at least one year of economics in order to receive a high school diploma.

Then again, at the high school level, you usually don’t have the mathematical skills to really appreciate the beauty of economics until your senior year when you get introduced to calculus.

NebraskaFootball · 2018-06-13T19:32:44.302Z

Hellsbane:

Leave it at " tariffs " and stop trying to push hype. Applying tariffs will work to force new trade deals with those countries that have been shafting us. Better than we currently have. Dwindling manufacturing, lower wages, higher cost of goods (due to THEIR tariffs and cost of goods caps they have our goods)

Tariff is just a fancy word for tax. And tax is exactly what it is. It is not hype to call it by its correct and proper term.

When has applying a tax on imported goods resulted in a new trade deal before? And are you really concerned about dwindling manufacturing and lower wages? What about jobs? Because history has proven time and time again that trade wars and tariffs slapped on whole industries like steel and aluminum will actually result in substantial declines in jobs across a slew of manufacturing industries. It seems like you are okay with dwindling manufacturing and net job losses, if it means a better trade deal as a result.

reflechissez · 2018-06-13T20:38:22.310Z

Hellsbane:

We import far more than we export.

That’s irrelevant to my comment. You’re going around chest beating about how important our imports are to other countries as if $1 trillion in exports is not critical to our economy.

reflechissez · 2018-06-13T20:42:02.212Z

Hellsbane:

We need a new trade deal. The current ones are not working for us and costing us far more in our manufacturing base than any increase in cost of imported goods. Manufacturing incomes are a lot better than the incomes of bugger flippers.

Can you give an example?