[quote=“Jezcoe, post:85, topic:238567, full:true”]
And what is their evidence for this opinion they have?
This is why it is appropriate to view the left as a clown show. It’s way past time to quit paying any attention to things like the Q Continuum, oh no wait that was Star Trek, and to start focusing on the destructive policies of lyin’ hidin’ Joe Biden and whoever is behind the scenes trying to ruin this country.
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And 50% of republicans believe it’s true.
Allan
[quote=“Paul_Thomson, post:88, topic:238567, full:true”]
Brennan worked with Watkins.
There is also other evidence that first it was Paul Furbur. He was really guy who rant the board on 4chan that hosted Q drops and he was the guy who evangelized the Q message into the internet ecosystem as a whole by pushing things into Infowars, Reddit and YouTube Pizzagate channels.
When Furber got kicked off of 4chan and was invited by Watkins to come over to 8chan there was an incident that people saw where there was a public fight over control of the account. Of course Watkins won.
Further evidence points to Watkins in that he also owned qmap, which was the largest website that disseminated Qdrops.
So… we can believe that there is a clear trail that the whole Q thing was crated in the 4chan anon culture for lols, pushed out into the world by an oppurtunist conspiracy theorist and then stolen by a bigger fish for money… the Watkins… the only people with the power to have direct communication with Q and owned all of the means of Q communicating to the world.
Or
That there is a high level government agent describing a world of where there is a giant pedophile ring and that the “elites” literally eat children and the only way to get this information out is through 8kun which also hosts child pornography.
Makes no sense.
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Sure they do…
And 93% of the protests burning neighborhoods to the ground were peaceful.
Sorry but no one with a brain is buying that ■■■■■■■■■ You’re trying to peddle a deep group of underground crackpots and no one in the real world has any idea what you are talking about…
But hey anything to distract from the idiot in the White House I guess.
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The best part of this latest QAnon nonsense is of course its complete lack of internal consistency.
So…to wit…Ulysses S. Grant was the last legitimate President under the Constitution because the act which incorporated the District of Columbia was supposedly an act which also turned the United States into a corporation, with future Presidents being more like “CEOs” instead of legitimate Presidents.
And every Presidential election since then has been illegitimate.
Well…um…that would include the election of 2016, whereby Donald Trump became CEO of USA Inc.
And it would include the election of 2020. Which of course Q believes Trump won, but so what? On its face it was an election for CEO, not Legitimate Cosntitutional President.
So even if we grant that Trump won this, why should we assume Donald Trump is in any ways legitimized in taking over as the 19th Legitimate President of the United States under the original Constitution?
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I get the cognitive dissonance, but no, everybody in the real world knows about Q.
Their signs were all over Trump rallies.
And Trump spread a lot of Q nonsense himself.
And the bulk of the GOP believes the more “innocuous” but still nonsense ideas that the election was stolen from Donald Trump.
So today’s right wing crackpot ideas are indeed “mainstream” among today’s right wing.
(90+% of all the summer protests were peaceful. That doesn’t excuse the violence, but neither does it negate the fact that 90+% of the summer protests were peaceful).
Whatever it takes to keep the left’s little conspiracy alive.
I suspect you could walk out into the street today and randomly ask people about this q crap and they’d think you are drunk.
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Why is this evidence Watkins was behind Q ? Are affidavits suddenly evidence now ?
Why is someone pushing Q evidence they were Q, rather than someone enthused by Q? Why is Q appearing on a single channel proof that someone at the channel created Q ?
Why is a fight over an account evidence that one of the fighters had created the account?
Really? You see enough evidence there to believe that conspiracy theory, but mock others for believing their own conspiracy theories. Glass houses.
Or, whoever Q is chose that channel for their own reasons and Watkins was perhaps just lucky it was his.
Why are you accusing Q fans of thinking this was “the only way to get this message out” ? Why are you assuming that Q would care that 8kun hosts porn? Maybe Q wanted to bring the belief in pedophile rings into disrepute by mixing a false narrative with the true data, and then having the false narrative exposed as fake, so making people afraid to repeat the true material lest that be later exposed as fake. That would also account for the gradual transfusion of material thru a remote obscure site.
I’d bet you were wrong.
But I get the strong need to pretend they were always a tiny fringe that no one ever heard about.
I also get the need to pretend this absolve those Republicans that believe the other nonsense idea that somehow hundreds of thousands of votes were stolen from Donald Trump so he would lose the election.
Cognitive dissonance is very uncomfortable. I get it.
What the general public who never read Q are coming to think they know about Q is what the media is telling them about Q. But the media does not know who Q is, so they are guessing at Q’s motives. Q’s motives may not have been what Q told people his motives were. No one has interrogated Q to ascertain whether their motives were primarily to inform, or to misdirect.
I’d bet that the Biden Presidency is off to such a horrible start that left wingers who already proved during the Trump presidency they would say or do anything to discredit not just Trump but his voters and supporters would have no problem making up some stupid conspiracy theory if nothing else as a way to avoid talking about the America Last Presidency of clueless Joe.
Look maybe I’m totally out of the loop. I have no idea what the hell q whatever is. I tried to read up on it and about a paragraph into what you’re supposed to believe to be a q I decided that this is so stupid no one with a brain would waste their time with it.
We are a country of 330 + million people so there are bound to be a few lunatics on all sides of the political spectrum. But lets not lose sight of the fact that y’all had multiple news stories on your favorite networks claiming that March 4 QAnon was coming to Washington DC to celebrate the true inauguration of Donald Trump. I read something from some publication that four people might have showed up.
That goes way farther to prove that Q is just a farce of the left’s making than any of the polls or surveys or whatever…
But hey maybe Morning Joe will tell us that Q is coming soon to protest tax day or mothers day or … I dunno Tuesday.
Cognitive Dissonance has nothing to do with it.
Brennan knows Watkins’ character. Brennan was the guy who got 8chan shut down. In the intervening time between 8chan and 8kun starting up Q was silent. Why would a high level government operative only speak through sketchy dark web websites hosted in the Philippines?
There is a culture at 4chan to claim to be an anonymous government employee “in the know” and make all sorts of wild claims. Some of that culture even leaked out to Twitter at the beginning of the Trump administration posing as “resistance” inside the administration. This is done strictly for the lols.
It is also a fact that it was Paul Furber who moved the Qanon thing out of 4chan and into the main ecosystem using people who pushed the pizzagate nonsense.
Paul Furber himself… who would be in a position to know who Q actually is since he was the administrator of the only place on 4chan where Q would post has himself said that the “real” Q has not posted since Jan 2018. Of course Furber can’t just come and say that he was posting as Q and now someone else is since he lost control of the account. He can only say that the person who is posting as Q isn’t legit.
Everything I describe is well within the realm of reality… unlike anything that the Q anon cult believes.
I was Q who declared that the only “real” communications would be through super sketchy websites owned by the worst people in the world.
One then has to ask themselves… if there is such great evidence of this global conspiracy then why would it be limited to 8kun? Why has there been no Q drops since? Why did Ron Watkins after the 6th do the “Q was really the friends we made along the way” tweet?
All of that makes no sense for a high level government agent who has super secret earth shattering information.
Q is a farce… I will agree with you in that.
But it did mobilize enough to people to cause real harm.
The reach is also global. It has become part of the conspiratorial ecosystem and is not going away anytime soon… but like all of the other conspiracies it borrowed from the next stupid thing will be built upon this.
And saying Q was fringe is a way to gloss over the fact that the bulk of today’s right wing believes in a lot of stuff that has zero evidence…like the election was stolen from Donald Trump.
Laughing at Q is a way for today’s right wing to gloss over the fact they are prone to believe conspiratorial ■■■■ that has no evidence behind it.
Global?
Wow…
I leave you guys to your fantasies.
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This reads a lot like “many parts of the dossier actually were true…”
I leave you guys to your fantasies.
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Yep… it is becoming more popular in Germany and in France.
It’s now March 5, 2021. Quick action by the FBI and intelligence agencies saved us from this dire almost another insurrection.
Thank you Biden administration.
Thank God the barbed wire and fences were in place.
Have you not seen Q signs at Trump rallies?
