Manchin will quit the D's

[e7alr]

Runaway inflation is a real bitch. What is that saying? Its the economy stupid.

[Samm]

[WuWei]

@GrandWazoo

Jayapal is talking to him about his vote. And she has asked what specific things in the bill he is opposed to. Exactly right.

Wonder why they chose her.

[WuWei]

Jayapal is most definitely part of the problem. A big part.

She’s in the House. She leads the “progressive caucus”. This is their bill.

[gooddad409]

@Bill.in.PA

Yes, expect a nice committee post for Manchin if he leaves the Democratic Party. We will see if Democrats double down on the hysteria and the bullying.

This situation reminds me of the old bumper sticker:

https://www.amazon.com/Honking-Reloading-Bumper-Sticker-Decal/dp/B00538FQV2

Love it!

We have a lot of honkers in this area.

[Smyrna]

It would appear that a more accurate representation of this scenario is, the D’s have quit Manchin.

[FreeAndClear]

@WuWei

@FreeAndClear

@WuWei

@FreeAndClear

The gop has been dragged towards moderation.

What makes you think that? What’s dragging them?

The electorate that “likes freebies” aka government spending on the forgotten man.

Ah. But is that dragged to “moderate”? What’s moderate about freebies?

So no spending is not moderate. Neither are give aways or whatever you want to call them. I’d call them investment but that’s what makes me a lib.

Anyway the correct way i think of saying it is that the gop has been dragged closer to the left. There is not a lot of 90s conservatism left. Trump hardly governed as a right wing anything other than some policies you and i disagree on. Same goes for the gop on the whole. Their budgets show little signs of cutting. They have given up early 21sr century social conservative stances etc.

The dems however have seen this as an opportunity to see how far they can take their agenda. They need to stop because the proletariat is clearly not impressed and in fact is repelled by where the earlier wins are taking the dems. As i said dems need to slow their roll

[FreeAndClear]

@Smyrna

It would appear that a more accurate representation of this scenario is, the D’s have quit Manchin.

The good old canard the party left me.

The whole party didn’t. May be that’s why he hasn’t quit….

[FreeAndClear]

@Samm

@FreeAndClear

@e7alr

Except socialists don’t morph to the center. Never have and never will. That is the difference, and the Dems are doing this to themselves.

This country is already socialist in many ways.

Oh you guys screamed socialism and communism about Obama…

Why do you keep referring to “you guys”? Who specifically, are you referring to?

You guys.

[FreeAndClear]

@zantax

@FreeAndClear

@WuWei

@FreeAndClear

The gop has been dragged towards moderation.

What makes you think that? What’s dragging them?

The electorate that “likes freebies” aka government spending on the forgotten man.

And by freebies you mean rural investment. Stop investing and starve.

Rural investment? Like farm subsidies? No.

[WuWei]

@FreeAndClear

the gop has been dragged closer to the left.

By whom?

@FreeAndClear

Their budgets show little signs of cutting.

Agreed. They never did.

@FreeAndClear

They have given up early 21sr century social conservative stances etc.

Have they? So abortion isn’t an issue?

[WuWei]

@FreeAndClear

The whole party didn’t. May be that’s why he hasn’t quit….

Who is supporting him besides that Arizona woman?

[e7alr]

If they force the vote in early January to make all Dems show their cards on this we may well find out. I suspect there is more than one Dem letting Manchin plow the road in front of them.

[STODR]

I don’t think he will switch sides. If he did he would still be the one vote. He might be a somewhat fiscal responsib lib he still was all for some of the other stuff in the lib bill like climate change stuff, childcare for all ect. I think we would regret for the short term gain we might get in judges.

[zantax]

Him going independent may make more sense.

[biggestal99]

@zantax

Him going independent may make more sense.

He loses his power once he quits.

Right now he is the kingmaker.

Goes independent. Just another Senator.

Allan

[PAmoderate37]

@biggestal99

He loses his power once he quits.

Right now he is the kingmaker.

Goes independent. Just another Senator.

He would still be the kingmaker if he went independent and caucused with the Dems. Both Bernie and Angus King are “Independents”.

[zantax]

@biggestal99

@zantax

Him going independent may make more sense.

He loses his power once he quits.

Right now he is the kingmaker.

Goes independent. Just another Senator.

Allan

Not true, he would have the same power, still a swing vote. even more so because he could threaten to remove Schumer as head of the senate.

[TheRedComet]

I can imagine what’s going through her mind.

“Traitor!!! He’s a traitor to the socialist people’s republic!!! Send him to the countryside for reeducation!”

[TheRedComet]

That’s what I think will happen long term.

Anyone who isn’t blind knows that a party purge is coming. The hard left is dominating party discourse and planning now.

He doesn’t want to be put underneath allegorical guillotine for not towing the line.

The Democratic Party is going to look really different in four years I think.