Man yelling 'anti-Trump' rhetoric opens fire at President's Miami-area golf resort

WuWei · 2018-05-18T17:13:18.789Z

Whataboutism!

Steel-W0LF · 2018-05-18T17:39:32.032Z

Keyser_Soze:

Incredible that the mother says “I blame the government” and then “They come on TV with 'Obama’s going to do martial law…”

Who do you suppose “They” are?

I’ll tell you who.

Fox News and other ridiculous right-wing fake news sources, such as WND.

No body that I know of went on TV saying anything like that. Not even Beck on the Blaze to my knowledge.

You had to go looking for that kind of Crazy. So if that the news she and her son were getting, one or the other of them was already looking for it, and since she’s instantly blaming conspiracies I would suspect it’s her.

Keyser_Soze · 2018-05-18T17:57:15.120Z

If only that were true, but it’s not. In 2009 Glenn Beck made the claim that the Obama administration was setting up concentration camps.

The embedded Fox video clip is no longer available, but I bet some deeper digging would turn it up.

In a recent spot on FOX and friends, Beck claimed that he had conducted “research on” the so called concentration camps being built by the Obama WH as part of a conspiracy to establish totalitarian rule in America and the he could not “debunk them.” According to Beck, “If you ave any fear that we might be heading toward a totalitarian state, look out. There is something happening in our country and it ain’t good.”

HuffPost – 15 Apr 09

Glenn Beck Recycles X-Files Plot to Spread Fear of Obama

Glenn Beck's latest criticism of President Obama's economic policies seems to have been ripped directly from the plot of FOX TV's past hit series The X-Files.

Steel-W0LF · 2018-05-18T18:08:58.861Z

Keyser_Soze:

If only that were true, but it’s not. In 2009 Glenn Beck made the claim that the Obama administration was setting up concentration camps.

The embedded Fox video clip is no longer available, but I bet some deeper digging would turn it up.

In a recent spot on FOX and friends, Beck claimed that he had conducted “research on” the so called concentration camps being built by the Obama WH as part of a conspiracy to establish totalitarian rule in America and the he could not “debunk them.” According to Beck, “If you ave any fear that we might be heading toward a totalitarian state, look out. There is something happening in our country and it ain’t good.”

Glenn Beck Recycles <i>X-Files</i> Plot to Spread Fear of Obama | HuffPost Latest News

One person on one show, at one time, does not equal “that was nationwide, forever”. And that’s even without going and watching what was actually said. Huffnpuff Post is even less reliable than the blaze.

Keyser_Soze · 2018-05-18T18:15:37.227Z

Do you recall how BIGLY HUGE Glenn Beck was back in 2009? He was the go-to guy for anti-Obama rhetoric on Fox News and featured nightly in primetime.

Here you go, in his own words…

Keyser_Soze · 2018-05-18T18:17:14.829Z

“One guy” broadcasting misinformation nightly to millions of Fox News watchers, many of them poorly educated rubes, ala the woman from Alabama and her late husband.

DougBH · 2018-05-18T18:29:40.650Z

Candyman:

Yeah. Cuz a right-wing nutjob didn’t go shooting up a pizzeria in DC due to irresponsible right-wing conspiracy ■■■■■■■■■ Nah. The only whackos in this country are libs, right?

Ummm…no one shot up a pizzeria in DC. Check your facts. Some guy hung around with a gun until they dragged him off.

Candyman · 2018-05-18T18:34:30.908Z

DougBH:

Candyman:

Yeah. Cuz a right-wing nutjob didn’t go shooting up a pizzeria in DC due to irresponsible right-wing conspiracy ■■■■■■■■■ Nah. The only whackos in this country are libs, right?

Ummm…no one shot up a pizzeria in DC. Check your facts. Some guy hung around with a gun until they dragged him off.

Pssssst…read the link. Take note of words like “walked in the front door” and “pointed a firearm” and “proceeded to discharge the rifle inside the building”.

https://www.google.com/search?q=man+shoots+up+comet+ping+pong&oq=man+shoots+up+comet+ping+pong&aqs=chrome..69i57.6320j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

Keyser_Soze · 2018-05-18T18:35:55.982Z

A 29-year-old North Carolina man who fired a military-style assault rifle inside a popular Washington pizzeria in December, wrongly believing he was saving children trapped in a sex-slave ring, was sentenced on Thursday to four years in prison.

nytimes.com – 23 Jun 17

Gunman in ‘Pizzagate’ Shooting Is Sentenced to 4 Years in Prison (Published...

The man, Edgar Maddison Welch, fired a gun inside the Comet Ping Pong pizzeria in December after reading fake stories about a child abuse scheme led by Hillary Clinton.

DougBH · 2018-05-18T18:38:11.984Z

Candyman:

DougBH:

Candyman:

Yeah. Cuz a right-wing nutjob didn’t go shooting up a pizzeria in DC due to irresponsible right-wing conspiracy ■■■■■■■■■ Nah. The only whackos in this country are libs, right?

Ummm…no one shot up a pizzeria in DC. Check your facts. Some guy hung around with a gun until they dragged him off.

Pssssst…read the link. Take note of words like “walked in the front door” and “pointed a firearm” and “proceeded to discharge the rifle inside the building”.

man shoots up comet ping pong - Google Search

OK. You win. I guess “at least three shots” does count as shooting up.

“Edgar Welch, 28, of Salisbury, was accused of firing at least three shots from an AR-15 rifle inside the Comet Ping Pong pizzeria in December and pointing the gun at an employee after showing up to investigate the online conspiracy rumors. No one was hurt.”

DougBH · 2018-05-18T18:55:56.143Z

In any case, I do agree that Fake news is bad whether its Inforwars talking about that pizza shop or USAToday saying that Trump called all undocumented immigrants “animals”.
However, regrettable as it is, the alternative of having the government stop them is worse.

Candyman · 2018-05-18T18:58:40.765Z

Thus there are crazy people all over the place. Right side. Left side. Center. Nuts are nuts. All they need is something to trigger them. Maybe instead of always trying to pin the crazy on our political opponents we should just pin the crazy on the crazy. I’m pretty sure there aren’t that many people who would find people like these guys to be anything to admire.

Keyser_Soze · 2018-05-18T19:00:00.299Z

I certainly don’t want the government deciding “real” news from “fake” news. No way. So at least we agree on that.

Keyser_Soze · 2018-05-18T19:04:30.292Z

Very true. Crazy doesn’t apply to only one end of the political spectrum.

Sadly, there are many people that admire the crazies that act out and kill. I had never heard of the whole “Incel” thing, then a guy goes on a rampage and I find out there are thousands of aggrieved dudes that are pissed off because they can’t get laid. Some to the point they’ll kill. Crazy!

margaretms2 · 2018-05-18T20:19:15.046Z

Beck definitely had his fans. Remember this guy? This was back when we were all terrified of the Tides Foundation, for some reason. Byron Williams had had enough.

Williams was reportedly heavily armed with a handgun, shotgun, rifle and body armor. Shortly after the shooting, a CHP sergeant said that “There is no doubt in our mind, given the body armor and the extensive amount of ammunition he had, that he was on his way to do a very serious crime against either someone or a group of people” And indeed, Williams reportedly told investigators that “his intention was to start a revolution by traveling to San Francisco and killing people of importance at the Tides Foundation and the ACLU.”

The ACLU is a very well-known entity, but the Tides Foundation, which seeks to “promote economic justice, robust democratic processes, and the opportunity to live in a healthy and sustainable environment where human rights are preserved and protected,” is much more obscure.

Williams may have been a disturbed individual who was destined to explode. But the question the media should be asking is why he decided to target Tides.

According to his mother, Williams “watched the news on television and was upset by ‘the way Congress was railroading through all these left-wing agenda items.’”

the Guardian – 28 Jul 10

What if Byron Williams had been a teetotaler? | Michael Tomasky

The little-covered man who wanted to shoot liberals and start a revolution

Iggy · 2018-05-18T20:26:22.398Z

Nut jobs on all sides and they are all influenced by irresponsible rhetoric that paints the other side as demons that need to be stopped at all costs.

This isn’t a right/left/gun control problem. The problem is that the FDA decided that mania, suicide, aggression and homicidal ideation are acceptable side effects to some prescription drugs.

Keyser_Soze · 2018-05-18T20:47:20.113Z

Holy moly. No, I did not recall that episode.

WildRose · 2018-05-19T10:21:23.823Z

Cite your source for what motivated the Las Vegas Shooter.

WildRose · 2018-05-19T10:23:04.687Z

Did you even bother to read it?

gun control.

The claims by those people and others could not be verified because the names of all witnesses were blacked out in the 1,200 pages of police reports and accounts that the Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department made public after losing court battles to keep them secret.

Police and the FBI have not determined a motive in the ongoing investigation. Authorities said they believe Stephen Paddock acted alone and the attack had no link to international terrorism. Law enforcement refused Wednesday to provide any additional information, including refusing to say whether the reports were credible.

Evilwestsidefan · 2018-05-20T04:10:53.121Z

Yeah and quit pissing them off, they go over the edge and hurt people.