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Cops are already packing over 30lbs of vest and gear. Loading them down with more isn’t going to help.

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A cop that doesn’t beat the ■■■■ out of people is “less macho”?

See even when an idea isn’t all that great and is kinda whacked out…I love what it reveals in people when it is just floated out there.

Because when people are reactionary they are the least guarded about offering up their opinions.

And unmasking hidden assumptions is quite cool.

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Why should a cop that has done nothing wrong be punished for something he had nothing to do with?

If an employee at your job does something that causes your company to lose a lawsuit, should you help pay that lawsuit? C’mon, this is ridiculous.

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Agreed. They would need to be as lightweight as possible.

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Don’t attribute things to people they never said. It only shows the weakness of your argument and position.

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It seems this all could be handled pretty quickly if the will to do so existed:

  1. Body cameras, every cop, turned on 24/7 while on the street. Footage immediately available to:

  2. An independent review board, comprised of let’s say, 5 ex-LEO’s and 4 civilians with strong ties to the community. (I don’t know how you determine that - figure it out. Just no cronies.) That gives a slight benefit of the doubt to the police, which is where it belongs. You start getting nothing but 5-4 rulings, well I guess you know something needs to change.

  3. Most important, no more pissing around with police unions. That shouldn’t be a problem - law and order Republicans HATE unions. If you are found by the review board to have used unreasonably excessive force, or if you have a lengthy history of complaints that skirt the edge, you’re gone. And your career as an LEO is over.

And no more ■■■■■■■ “cone of silence”. If you witness the act and do nothing or say nothing, you’re gone too. If you’re monitoring a call, and you hear “Oh ■■■■ man, what did you do?” and you say nothing, you’re gone as well.

As Mike Ehrmentraut said, no half measures.

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I like it, good start.

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Body cameras, every cop, turned on 24/7 while on the street. Footage immediately available to:

That isn’t even currently possible and as TW mentioned it would violate the officer’s rights t privacy if it did.

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No it doesn’t. There is no expectation of privacy in public.

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What right to privacy exists on the job? What activities are the police engaging in that need to be kept secret? Are they wizards?

If your job involves potentially kicking the ■■■■ out of people, especially ones unlikely to have the same training or weapons that you do, you should be scrutinized. All we’re hearing right now is “a few bad apples”. Great. That means the vast majority of police officers would pass muster on video.

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They aren’t always in public.

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Learn to read what has already been posted. TW detailed out several very good examples.

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Depends.

My department in the SO (FL) was responsible for public records requests for body worn camera footage.

The footage had to be reviewed prior to release to blur the image of anyone captured on the video who was not part of a call, for example: minors, UC cops, CI’s, neighbors at a domestic violence call or onlookers at a DUI arrest. That applied to both public and private.

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Really? I may have disagreement in direction they’re taking bit you think cops shouldn’t have any representation?

I thought libs believe in having representation? What happen? Oh wait…,libs believed in that before they’re against it.

Carry on.

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Would that sentiment be for the teachers unions as well?

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Yes…again I may not agree with direction they’re taking those kids.

You either believe in representation or you don’t. You either believe we are representative government or you don’t.

Those are fundamentals of our Republic.

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I’m very consistent on this one. All gov’t sector unions should be illegal if they have any collective bargaining power.

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Collective punishment is not the answer. That will work no better than the plan of kicking a whole family out of pubic housing if any one of them did drugs.

Or burning down a whole town, because one man raped a white woman.

Collective punishment doesn’t work.

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This would be more like kicking all of the residents out of the building for one testing positive for dope or for committing a crime.

It’s also the kind of crap we used to see from such great humanitarians as Stalin and Hitler.

Strange times.

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Why can’t they just wait and download at end of their shift? Doesn’t that solve the problem of leaving abruptly without it???