Macron proposes Europe spend more on it's defense

BlueTex · 2018-11-11T17:05:08.720Z

French president Macron said during an interview today that Europe needs to spend more on it’s own defense! See, Trump was right!.. Oh, he also said that the spending should be on European military hardware… Sorry, Boeing, Raytheon, General Dynamics, etc.

POLITICO – 11 Nov 18

Macron wants Europe to buy its own military hardware

French president says Europe needs to be ‘a more sovereign, a more united and democratic power.’

Jezcoe · 2018-11-11T17:09:30.412Z

Yep… that was an argument that was made on the old board, that Europe would spend more on US armaments and I asked why would they… they have their own companies to use their tax dollars for.

That thread went on a while.

Candyman · 2018-11-11T17:09:53.587Z

Cool. MEGA. Make Europe Great Again.

But on a serious note, good for them. Not because I’m a panty bunched Trumper who wants to cast off Europe. But because if the current admin is so douchey that they want to piss off our European allies then I applaud Europe in telling the US to go ■■■■ themselves.

Guilds · 2018-11-11T18:27:57.983Z

I also like Macron had to say about Nationalists.

“Patriotism is the exact opposite of nationalism: nationalism is a betrayal of patriotism,” Macron said in a 20-minute address delivered from under the Arc de Triomphe to mark the 100th anniversary of the end of World War One.

“By pursuing our own interests first, with no regard to others’, we erase the very thing that a nation holds most precious, that which gives it life and makes it great: its moral values.”

Girl_from_Ipanema · 2018-11-11T18:45:15.964Z

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lulubee · 2018-11-11T18:47:28.233Z

Candyman:

Cool. MEGA. Make Europe Great Again.

But on a serious note, good for them. Not because I’m a panty bunched Trumper who wants to cast off Europe. But because if the current admin is so douchey that they want to piss off our European allies then I applaud Europe in telling the US to go ■■■■ themselves.

Agree.

10Bubbles

Impenitent · 2018-11-11T18:55:25.660Z

European nationalism? not until the jihadists are finished …

Guntsu · 2018-11-11T18:58:32.178Z

Not surprised I mean now that the EU witnessed that any nut in our country can become president and put our alliances into question…

It also cracks me up that Trumpist complain so much at what we spend to “defend” other nations. We dont do it for “free” we get Military base installations around the world and have a global military reach unlike any other country.
Because we wanted it so…

Last I checked we dont have foreign military bases in the US…

johnrandolph · 2018-11-11T19:01:52.181Z

As well they should. Europe and European nations have individually and collectively the means to defend themselves and have had the means since 1970. They prefer to let the US taxpayer fund their defense which allows for them to finance their generous social welfare programs.
Bring the boys back home.

Guntsu · 2018-11-11T19:02:46.746Z

Yeah let’s shutter down all our military base installations and bring em home!

Or maybe you know the Pentagon wants all those bases…

johnrandolph · 2018-11-11T19:10:18.146Z

Guntsu:

Yeah let’s shutter down all our military base installations and bring em home!

Or maybe you know the Pentagon wants all those bases…

It is very hard to advance in rank without troops actively engaged somewhere, even if it is in the whorehouses of Kaiserlautern, Baumholder, Yokosuka, Apra, Okinawa etc.The more commands, the more senior officers are needed to command them. The pentagon will always be opposed to bringing the boys home. Job and advancement security.

Guntsu · 2018-11-11T19:12:52.365Z

Yeah and you know the ability to strike anywhere in the world at a moments notice is also pretty nice.

Having the worlds most advanced and powerful military patrolling and conserving our interests is also pretty nice.

FloridaYankee · 2018-11-11T20:58:38.230Z

Yes, synonym. Similar but NOT the same.

na·tion·al·ism

[ˈnaSH(ə)nəˌlizəm]

NOUN

identification with one’s own nation and support for its interests, especially to the exclusion or detriment of the interests of other nations.

Girl_from_Ipanema · 2018-11-11T21:57:53.939Z

Synonym != “The exact opposite”