Loudoun County Va

[Jezcoe]

@UnoURright

You have never done either have you?

Nope.

Have you?

[UnoURright]

Yes, a few times each, young and dumb.

It could have just been other factors involved, but personally for me the effects were different.

Was it because the crack was more intense? I guess that’s a possibility, but really i don’t think that
matters.

I can see how they technically both have the same effect biologically. it’s just that certain effects only happen at certain levels, ie hallucinations.

Although quality and processing could have also played a part?

[zantax]

@TommyLucchese

@UnoURright

You have never done either have you?

Cocaine hydrochloride is what addicts you.

The freebasing ups the intensity of the high and shortens the time span

, that’s it. Crack is literally just cocaine and baking soda boiled in water and then rapidly cooled. Ten year olds can make it, and did.

Yes, that’s it but that’s precisely what makes it more addictive.

[zantax]

If you wanted to get someone addicted the best way to go about it is to up the potency and shorten the time of onset to drive up the reinforcement of the behavior.

[peek-a-boo]

Here is my take on this.

I strongly believe someone who might be different is harmed more by those attempting to help that person. By publicly highlighting those differences while demanding everyone treat that individual different, they focus unneeded attention on that person.

That person then becomes the target of multiple different groups. In this case, kids being kids will single out for bullying anyone who is different. The trans individual most likely is not the only student being bullied. Turning the school’s education upside down for this one individual angers everyone. Teachers and parents alike.

So what is the solution?

Leave things as they are in public. Privately teachers can be pulled aside and provided guidance on how sensitive they might need to be to a recently introduced trans student. No need to make a public spectacle. Teachers who bully the new student would be disciplined in the same manner they would for bullying any student. No need for a special trans bullying guideline.

No matter what policy is put into place kids will be kids. The trans student will likely be bullied by some and accepted or ignored by others. Once again no need for special trans bullying directives. If the trans student is bullied by classmates, the faculty would discipline the bullies as they would for any other bullying incident.

So once again the ole LIB unintended consequences. They have an unfulfilled need to publicly show how much they care. So they make these unnecessary and superfluous rules in order to openly demonstrate their supposed compassion. It should come as no surprise when their public display of compassion backfires by unnecessarily calling attention to someone’s differences.

There was no need for the Virginia law and the resulting public spectacle could have been avoided.

[Borgia_dude]

@YOSUP

No it’s changing because it’s always changed even before the industrial revolution.

Yet it has heated up quite a bit since then. What is the mechanism for that? What is causing the heat?

LOL AOC and John Kerry and Al Gore and Bernie have been spewing the 12 year nonsense over the last two years. So have climatologists. So you follow the science only when Convenient? More of that absolute truth stuff I have been talking about.

I don’t think you are hearing them in context. I’m following the science.

[Borgia_dude]

@YOSUP

https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/426353-ocasio-cortez-the-world-will-end-in-12-years-if-we-dont-address%3Famp

I can post an article for each person I listed if you want.

Read the context.

[DMK]

@SixFoot

Oddly enough, we used to dominate innovation and technology before math was racist.

I had to teach a 30 year old how to count change.

[DMK]

It reflects the erosion of morals and values.

[FreeAndClear]

@komobu

@JayJay

Oddly enough, we used to dominate a lot of things before half the country’s population decided to embrace unreality (as evidenced by this post to which I’m responding).

What “unreality” are you referring to? Is Christianity the “unreality” you are referring to? In the 50s and 60s, when Christianity was at an all time high in this country, we were dominating the most. Then because a very few didnt like it, They forced Prayer out of schools. A few years later and Carter set up a Department of Education, and we have been going down hill ever since.

Christianity was not at an all time high in the 50s and 60s. That’s not even history. That just silly ness. You think that the 1950s and 1960s had more Christianity (however that’s measured) than during the early 19the century.

[FreeAndClear]

@DMK

It reflects the erosion of morals and values.

Correlation.

[WuWei]

@Dem

we have more students in poverty represented,

Students don’t have jobs. I was poor when I was a student too.

[YOSUP]

There is no context! Willing to bet your house and 401k on that? I’ll be here in 12 years.

[YOSUP]

I don’t consider stupidity in any context.

[Borgia_dude]

@YOSUP

There is no context! Willing to bet your house and 401k on that? I’ll be here in 12 years.

You seem to be winning the argument against yourself. Kudos.

[WuWei]

@YOSUP

There is no context! Willing to bet your house and 401k on that? I’ll be here in 12 years.

It helps the flow of the conversation if you quote the post you are replying to.

The little quote bubble at the top left of the quote box.

[Paul_Do]

@Jezcoe

@zantax

@Jezcoe

@zantax

@Jezcoe

@mot1man

@Jezcoe

Joe Biden was wrong.

I have no problem saying that.

Was he? Why?

Black leaders were pushing for that legislation.

Were they wrong too?

Yes.

That is why the sentencing disparity should be fixed

Odd, I thought black people have as much right as white people to live in safe neighborhoods that aren’t overrun with crack heads. Leaving their damaged kids in their wakes for the poor grandparents to raise.

The drug war has caused enough harm.

Having a harsher sentence for crack cocaine than for powder cocaine makes zero sense.

They are the exact same substance with the exact same effect on the human body.

No, they aren’t the same, I should know, I have done both. It’s cheaper to produce and the speed of its effects are faster resulting in it, being more addictive.

They are the exact same substance.

One is a cheaper form… but the active ingredient and the effect are 100% the same.

The effects are not the same, changing the ROI changes the effect and feel of a drug drastically.

On a side not IV cocaine injection is far more addicting than smoking crack.

It is also much cheaper due to the higher bioavailability. Smoking is more effective than snorting cocaine or eating it. For most drugs oral<rectal<snorting<smoking<< IV

[zantax]

@Paul_Do

@Jezcoe

@zantax

@Jezcoe

@zantax

@Jezcoe

@mot1man

@Jezcoe

Joe Biden was wrong.

I have no problem saying that.

Was he? Why?

Black leaders were pushing for that legislation.

Were they wrong too?

Yes.

That is why the sentencing disparity should be fixed

Odd, I thought black people have as much right as white people to live in safe neighborhoods that aren’t overrun with crack heads. Leaving their damaged kids in their wakes for the poor grandparents to raise.

The drug war has caused enough harm.

Having a harsher sentence for crack cocaine than for powder cocaine makes zero sense.

They are the exact same substance with the exact same effect on the human body.

No, they aren’t the same, I should know, I have done both. It’s cheaper to produce and the speed of its effects are faster resulting in it, being more addictive.

They are the exact same substance.

One is a cheaper form… but the active ingredient and the effect are 100% the same.

The effects are not the same, changing the ROI changes the effect and feel of a drug drastically.

On a side not IV cocaine injection is far more addicting than smoking crack.

It is also much cheaper due to the higher bioavailability. Smoking is more effective than snorting cocaine or eating it. For most drugs oral<rectal<snorting<smoking<< IV

Never injected anything so no personal experience with that.

[Paul_Do]

@Jezcoe

@zantax

Again, differing delivery methods have different results.

from https://americanaddictioncenters.org/cocaine-treatment/differences-with-crack

and

from https://www.camh.ca/en/health-info/mental-illness-and-addiction-index/cocaine

Smoking crack, with its rapid, intense and short-lived effects, is the most addictive.

That is an unscientific assessment from the first thing that came up on google.

Crack cocaine and cocaine hydrochloride. Are the differences myth or reality? - PubMed

Cocaine hydrochloride is readily converted to base prior to use. The physiological and psychoactive effects of cocaine are similar regardless of whether it is in the form of cocaine hydrochloride or crack cocaine (cocaine base). However, evidence exists showing a greater abuse liability, greater propensity for dependence, and more severe consequences when cocaine is smoked (cocaine-base) or injected intravenously (cocaine hydrochloride) compared with intranasal use (cocaine hydrochloride). The crucial variables appear to be the immediacy, duration, and magnitude of cocaine’s effect, as well as the frequency and amount of cocaine used rather than the form of the cocaine. Furthermore, cocaine hydrochloride used intranasally may be a gateway drug or behavior to using crack cocaine. Based on these findings, the federal sentencing guidelines allowing possession of 100 times more cocaine hydrochloride than crack cocaine to trigger mandatory minimum penalties is deemed excessive. Although crack cocaine has been linked with crime to a greater extent than cocaine hydrochloride, many of these crimes are associated with the addiction to cocaine. Therefore, those addicted individuals who are incarcerated for the sale or possession of cocaine are better served by treatment than prison.

So there may be more oppurtunity for abuse… but it isn’t more addictive.

I usually love your posts but drugs/roi that have an instant rapid peak are more addictive. Trying to find the study I saw this in.

Iv cocaine use is more addictive than crack but crack will beat out oral or snorted cocaine.

The bioavailability and onset for IV use can’t be beat

[Paul_Do]

@zantax

@Paul_Do

@Jezcoe

@zantax

@Jezcoe

@zantax

@Jezcoe

@mot1man

@Jezcoe

Joe Biden was wrong.

I have no problem saying that.

Was he? Why?

Black leaders were pushing for that legislation.

Were they wrong too?

Yes.

That is why the sentencing disparity should be fixed

Odd, I thought black people have as much right as white people to live in safe neighborhoods that aren’t overrun with crack heads. Leaving their damaged kids in their wakes for the poor grandparents to raise.

The drug war has caused enough harm.

Having a harsher sentence for crack cocaine than for powder cocaine makes zero sense.

They are the exact same substance with the exact same effect on the human body.

No, they aren’t the same, I should know, I have done both. It’s cheaper to produce and the speed of its effects are faster resulting in it, being more addictive.

They are the exact same substance.

One is a cheaper form… but the active ingredient and the effect are 100% the same.

The effects are not the same, changing the ROI changes the effect and feel of a drug drastically.

On a side not IV cocaine injection is far more addicting than smoking crack.

It is also much cheaper due to the higher bioavailability. Smoking is more effective than snorting cocaine or eating it. For most drugs oral<rectal<snorting<smoking<< IV

Never injected anything so no personal experience with that.

That’s good, once people start IV you don’t go back to other ways. The increased bioavailability and rapid onset make it far more addictive on top of being much more dangerous.

I don’t think crack and cocaine should be separated anymore than IV or snorted cocaine for sentencing.

The main benifits of crack are for the dealer tho.