Looks like things are coming to a head between Israel and Iran

[Ben_Natuf]

of course you will. foxes love gaurding henhouses

[Borgia_dude]

@Ben_Natuf

of course you will. foxes love gaurding henhouses

Three times you provided sources and once I actually read them I found they didn’t support you at all and provided actual excerpts from your sources that contradicted you.

I guess that level of spanking doesn’t sink in for some people.

Pro tip, don’t use sources that contradict your premise. It doesn’t end well for you. Also, may want to read beyond the headlines.

[Ben_Natuf]

pro tip… learn to differentiate between those with a vested interest in seeing compliance and those who have no agenda other than the truth.

i am fully aware of what obama’s diplomats said, i’m fully aware of what un diplomats said, all are under great political pressure to see compliance and downplay or ignore non compliance. i’m also aware of what the experts tasked with reporting non compliance said. they reported the violation, and our diplomats explained it away.

was iran required to abide by the restriction of un resolutions regarding balistic missiles under the jcpoa?

yes

did they?

no

[Borgia_dude]

@Ben_Natuf

pro tip… learn to differentiate between those with a vested interest in seeing compliance and those who have no agenda other than the truth.

i am fully aware of what obama’s diplomats said, i’m fully aware of what un diplomats said, all are under great political pressure to see compliance and downplay or ignore non compliance. i’m also aware of what the experts tasked with reporting non compliance said. they reported the violation, and our diplomats explained it away.

was iran required to abide by the restriction of un resolutions regarding balistic missiles under the jcpoa?

yes

did they?

no

Dude, I’m just using the sources YOU provided. Did you use them by mistake?

And the bolded is wrong. The JCPOA certified compliance.

Id ask you to provide another source for your claim but given your track record it would just prove me correct.

[Ben_Natuf]

you are incorrect. the arms control experts tasked with measuring compliance reported the violation, diplomats explained it away.

[Borgia_dude]

@Ben_Natuf

you are incorrect. the arms control experts tasked with measuring compliance reported the violation, diplomats explained it away.

Cite?

[Ben_Natuf]

UNITED NATIONS (Reuters) - Iran violated a U.N. Security Council resolution in October by test-firing a missile capable of delivering a nuclear warhead, a team of sanctions monitors said, leading to calls in the U.S. Congress on Tuesday for more sanctions on Tehran.

is this difficult to understand? the experts tasked with monitoring reported the violation

Diplomats said the rocket test on Oct. 10 was not technically a violation of the July nuclear deal between Iran and six world powers, but the U.N. report could put U.S. President Barack Obama’s administration in an awkward position.

diplomats with a vested interest in not seeing non compliance explained it away

[Borgia_dude]

@Ben_Natuf

UNITED NATIONS (Reuters) - Iran violated a U.N. Security Council resolution in October by test-firing a missile capable of delivering a nuclear warhead, a team of sanctions monitors said, leading to calls in the U.S. Congress on Tuesday for more sanctions on Tehran.

is this difficult to understand? the experts tasked with monitoring reported the violation

Diplomats said the rocket test on Oct. 10 was not technically a violation of the July nuclear deal between Iran and six world powers, but the U.N. report could put U.S. President Barack Obama’s administration in an awkward position.

diplomats with a vested interest in not seeing non compliance explained it away

A team of sanctions monitors? Who are they?

[Ben_Natuf]

people tasked with monitoring sanction compliance. is that difficult to understand? do you think we put sanction in effect and then just go home and trust they’ll be followed?

[Borgia_dude]

@Ben_Natuf

people tasked with monitoring sanction compliance. is that difficult to understand? do you think we put sanction in effect and then just go home and trust they’ll be followed?

Well, I’m just trying to understand the provenance of this team of monitors. Can you assist?

[Ben_Natuf]

look for yourself, i’m not tasked with fetching for you

[Borgia_dude]

@Ben_Natuf

look for yourself, i’m not tasked with fetching for you

No, you aren’t. You are making a claim that these monitors are the JCPOA monitors and I just wanted to check.

[WuWei]

@Supreme_War_Pig

@Bigjohn

Didn’t we get some mercs killed in that attack in Benghazi?

Probably.

Wiki lists them as “CIA contractors”

Only if one doesn’t understand what the word “mercenary” actually means.

[altair1013]

@SixFoot

Bomb the hell out of them, Israel. Do it. lol

Yeah. Iran really has no answer to this.

[Borgia_dude]

Ben, I note that you are mentioning UN Security Council resolution violations. Those are not JCPOA violations and JCPOA suspended many of the UN resolutions in favor of the JCPOA.

[Ben_Natuf]

then check. i’m satisfied that they’re arms control experts who were monitoring iran and reported to congress.

[Borgia_dude]

@Ben_Natuf

then check. i’m satisfied that they’re arms control experts who were monitoring iran and reported to congress.

Is it possible the experts you are consulting are biased?

[Adam]

@gooddad409

I’ve said all along that Israel is never going to allow Iran to have nukes.

If need be i suspect there will be unilateral military action by Israel.

They know if Iran gets nukes they will likely use them on Israel. The leadership in Iran is just that crazy/fanatical imo.

Again, a con not understanding how the Iranian government thinks. They know if they nuke Israel, or provide a nuke to be used by proxies in Israel, Iran lasts exactly 30 minutes. They aren’t stupid. It’s easy to call them crazy fanatics but they are way too smart for that.

[Ben_Natuf]

is it possible people with a vested interest in not seeing violations won’t see them?

[Ben_Natuf]

again, another leftist who does understand how iran “thinks”.

hope is not a policy