Liz: "I am not a person of color."

WuWei · 2019-01-06T17:13:50.334Z

Kyshia:

Agree. This issue is stupid. Much more minor than most politician’s screwups.

But, again, it is unique, memorable, and prone to racist insults from conservatives–so it will have lots of drag.

Cultural misappropriation for personal gain is neither minor nor a “screwup”.

Plasmaball · 2019-01-06T17:16:05.287Z

Exactly…the issue is stupid and naturally the conservatives will use it and run it into the ground…

Roxiebelle · 2019-01-06T17:25:09.538Z

calirepub:

That’s pretty rough. She made a single political miscalculation.

She has 2 years to put it behind her. Did Donald Trump ever do anything stupid before he got elected?

A “Miscalculation”, really? Good grief I love how leftists excuse one of their own for unethical behavior, she passed herself off as a NA minority for personal gain for decades!

President Trump never passed himself off as anything but a philanderer his entire adult life, voters knew about his lifestyle and gave him a pass and gave him their Electoral vote, lets see if they do the same for Liz!

FloridaYankee · 2019-01-06T17:27:19.998Z

altair1013:

AlexMcAlpine:

But luckily for us he had the power to create the best two years of prosperity in my lifetime.

Prosperous for who?

Nearly everyone.
Average wages are at record highs. Taxes are low. Anyone who has prepared himself for life has a job waiting for him. Black unemployment, Hispanic unemployment and women’s unemployment are the lowest in history. So there’s that.

Wages have no more buying power now than they did forty years ago. Or thirty, or twenty, or ten.

SimplyTrying · 2019-01-06T17:28:14.107Z

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calirepub:

That’s pretty rough. She made a single political miscalculation.

She has 2 years to put it behind her. Did Donald Trump ever do anything stupid before he got elected?

A “Miscalculation”, really? Good grief I love how leftists excuse one of their own for unethical behavior, she passed herself off as a NA minority for personal gain for decades!

President Trump never passed himself off as anything but a philanderer his entire adult life, voters knew about his lifestyle and gave him a pass and gave him their Electoral vote, lets see if they do the same for Liz!
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Dennison anyone?

calirepub · 2019-01-06T17:30:52.921Z

Roxiebelle:

A “Miscalculation”, really? Good grief I love how leftists excuse one of their own for unethical behavior, she passed herself off as a NA minority for personal gain for decades!

The miscalculation was taking Donald Trump up on his dare to take the test. There was nothing unethical of her for believing the family stories that said one of her ancestors was Native American. The story turns out to be true. There is ZERO evidence that she has used those stories for personal gain.

Elizabeth Warren has done more for America than Donald Trump ever has. Do you know that Warren is the reason why we have the Consumer Protection Bureau? That’s a good thing, right?

calirepub · 2019-01-06T17:35:48.525Z

Eastern Band Principal Chief Richard Sneed said in a statement that he “strongly condemn” people who try to pass off distant Native ancestry as their race, but they don’t believe that Warren has appropriated their culture.

"Senator Elizabeth Warren does not claim to be a citizen of any tribal nation, and she is not a citizen of the Eastern Band. Like many other Americans, she has a family story of Cherokee and Delaware ancestry and evidence of Native ancestry.

“Warren has not used her family story or evidence of Native ancestry to gain employment or other advantage. On the contrary, she demonstrates respect for tribal sovereignty.”

“Senator Warren has demonstrated her respect for tribal sovereignty and is an ally of the Eastern Band. As such, we support her and other allies — regardless of party — who promote tribal sovereignty, tribal self-determination, and protection of Cherokee women,” Sneed said.

Plasmaball · 2019-01-06T17:37:16.884Z

He lied…that’s all he has ever done…

SixFoot · 2019-01-06T17:39:06.605Z

I understand, @altair1013. Leadership is sorely lacking. lol

FloridaYankee · 2019-01-06T17:41:05.236Z

calirepub:

altair1013:

WuWei:

Campaign Fight Song! She speak with forked tongue.

I posted that song once and apparently somebody got offended. It was gone in about 15 minutes. I asked the mods. Didn’t get a reply.

Mods are really strict lately, from my perspective. Luckily they’re being very fair in how they moderate the forum. It doesn’t matter if you’re Right, Left, or Center, they treat you the same.

True. Extremely PC. Like first graders.

altair1013 · 2019-01-06T17:41:24.230Z

SixFoot:

I understand, @altair1013. Leadership is sorely lacking. lol

I’m surprised that my account is still active. We’ll see. If I suddenly stop replying, you will know what happened.

SixFoot · 2019-01-06T17:45:32.296Z

Leaders conduct a functioning platform, bosses devote all their time to telling you how to act.

altair1013 · 2019-01-06T17:48:11.233Z

SixFoot:

Leaders conduct a functioning platform, bosses devote all their time to telling you how to act.

I’m writing this down.

altair1013 · 2019-01-06T18:43:07.336Z

FloridaYankee:

Mods are really strict lately, from my perspective. Luckily they’re being very fair in how they moderate the forum. It doesn’t matter if you’re Right, Left, or Center, they treat you the same.

True. Extremely PC. Like first graders.

I communicated with one of them today. I told him that there are many members who are not happy with the way the mods are serving them. The mods see criticism as “contempt of Mods” which I explained is not what this is about. I agree with a crack down on unprovoked, idiotic insults. We don’t need the childish crap here. But the other stuff, they need to let go. We’ll see what if anything changes.

DougBH · 2019-01-06T20:07:57.522Z

“There is no dispute that Warren formally notified officials at the University of Pennsylvania and then Harvard claiming Native American heritage after she was hired.”

At a time when law schools faced public pressure to show greater ethnic diversity within their faculty, the university’s Crimson newspaper quoted a law school spokesman in 1996 saying Warren was Native American.

“The Boston Globe followed the Herald with a report that the Association of American Law Schools listed Warren as a minority law teacher each year from 1986 to 1994. In that time, Warren went from being a law professor at the University of Texas, to the University of Pennsylvania, and finally in 1995 to Harvard University.”

@politifact

PolitiFact - The facts behind Elizabeth Warren, her claimed Native American...

Update: In October 2018, Sen. Elizabeth Warren released a DNA report showing she has Native American ancestry. We asked

So she represented to her school that she was native American and the school used that to their advantage in listing her as a law professor.
Now, is there an official document saying that worked to her advantage?
There shouldn’t have to be, really. It is pretty obvious. The school benefited, she benefited.

As far as the blood test, that was a total embarrassment reflecting poor judgement and totally on her.

Blackwolf · 2019-01-06T20:33:38.801Z

DougBH:

So she represented to her school that she was native American and the school used that to their advantage in listing her as a law professor.

To what advantage? The PolitiFact article you cite says there’s no evidence of any advantage:

Her detractors say she deployed a faux Native American connection to improve her chances of landing teaching jobs at two of the country’s top law schools. However, there is no proof Warren gained any special advantage in her career.

The article goes on to say that her claim of NA ancestry WAS cited by Harvard Law officials who were scrambling to show diversity among their faculty at the time. But for herself? Again, from the article you cite:

Harvard Law School professor Charles Fried, who served as U.S. Solicitor General under President Ronald Reagan and was part of the committee that put Warren in a tenure position, said in a written statement that her ethnicity never came up during the process.

More:

Asked about Warren’s minority status, Robert H. Mundheim, the dean who hired Warren at the University of Pennsylvania, told the Boston Globe that summer, “‘I don’t think I ever knew that she had those attributes and that would not have made much of a difference.”

Finally:

A number of news organizations interviewed dozens of faculty and students from the three law schools where Warren taught, and no evidence emerged that any claim about her ethnic roots played a role in the hiring process.

None of this will matter, of course. Donald will continue using the pejorative “Pocahontas” against Warren, and Donald’s esteemed supporters will continue to accept it as gospel that Warren benefitted “for decades” falsely claiming she was Native American. It’s a fun thing to poke the opposition with, and it gets Donald lots of cheers at his rallies.

I simply find it amusing that they dig in their heels when they’ve been shown time and again it didn’t afford her any proven or demonstrated advantage.

Blackwolf · 2019-01-06T20:36:48.532Z

Roxiebelle:

A “Miscalculation”, really? Good grief I love how leftists excuse one of their own for unethical behavior, she passed herself off as a NA minority for personal gain for decades!

You say this with such conviction, I presume it’s easy for you to provide evidence as to where, when, and how Warren benefitted “for decades” via her ancestral claims.

DougBH · 2019-01-07T09:03:51.591Z

Somebody in that school darn well noticed it since they used it to sell their diversity.
Make the boss happy, make me happy.
And why the heck would she feel the need to tell that anyway in a job related situation?
She knew those schools were pushing diversity.

WildRose · 2019-01-07T09:08:06.644Z

Well, that’s certainly not true.

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WildRose · 2019-01-07T09:20:59.214Z

She “Checked the Box” claiming to be a Native American at Penn.

BostonGlobe.com

Why did Elizabeth Warren check the box? - The Boston Globe

“The issue is not whether or not [Elizabeth Warren] has a genetic Native American ancestor . . . . The real question is why she checked the box.” — Bonnie Hausman

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/everything-you-need-to-know-about-the-controversy-over-elizabeth-warrens-claimed-native-american-heritage/2012/09/27/d0b7f568-08a5-11e2-a10c-fa5a255a9258_blog.html?utm_term=.988f7804184c

She also used it to claim to be a minority.

The Boston Herald reported in April that Warren had listed herself as a minority in the American Association of Law Schools directory and that Harvard Law School had touted her supposed lineage when the program faced doubts about faculty diversity.

Critics pounced on the news, suggesting Warren had feigned Native American ancestry to enhance her teaching prospects.

The Democratic candidate stumbled early on in reacting to this controversy. At one point, Warren cited remarks that her aunt Bea made about high cheekbones in the family as evidence of her indigenous ancestry. She said she listed herself as a minority in the professional listings merely to connect with “people like me,” noting that it was “not a particularly good use for the directory, because it never happened.”

The American Association of Law Schools directory doesn’t specify which professors are Native American, but instead clumps all the “minority law teachers” together in a distinct section. As such, it’s no surprise that Warren didn’t connect with American Indians through the listing — they wouldn’t have known she was one of them.

Warren first listed herself as a minority in the Association of American Law Schools Directory of Faculty in 1986, the year before she joined the faculty of the University of Pennsylvania Law School. She continued to list herself as a minority until 1995, the year she accepted a tenured position at Harvard Law School.

https://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=mcafee&type=C211US0D20170302&p=Elizabeth+wwarren+checke+the+Native+American+Box+at+Penn

Any way you add it up it’s cultural appropriation and fraud.