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Emphatically false. Hospitalizations are up. Deaths are spiking and rates of hospitalizations per test are spiking to new heights never before seen during this pandemic. Deaths as a lagging indicator are going to continue to spike to new heights as well in a few weeks.

Also completely false. This is maddening. Don’t say this, please. Not only is your figure completely wrong, but what we are learning is that even people who survive this horrific illness can have lifelong health complications as a result. Permanent lung scarring. Permanent heart damage. Permanent brain damage. Permanent organ damage.

Think about the 1st responders in NY when the towers fell. And the permanent health complications so many of them have had since. How many have died since as a result of these complications. Now multiply that by hundreds of thousands of people and you begin to scratch the surface of what the future holds for a great many Americans who “survived” this virus.

And the mitigation and prevention potential is so ■■■■■■■ easy as well. Wear a mask while in public. If you can avoid being within 6-10 feet of someone, outside, then you probably don’t need one. If you cannot maintain that distance, then wear a mask. It is so damn easy. This is not locking anything down. People can still live their damn lives. But this could literally save hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of thousands of lives that WILL be lost, either in the next year until a vaccine is widely distributed, or over the next several years due to health complications that are permanent as a result of surviving COVID.

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I hope this doesn’t turn into a similar situation on an exponentially massive scale, but this is a blunt force analogy that can’t be overstated. It IS possible to be concerned about potential government overreach or excessive lockdowns while also accepting that a pandemic is very real and personal responsibility is required to avoid those measures.

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Agreed on all counts here. I don’t want the country locked down any more than anyone else. Especially when the ability to lessen the spread and damage of this virus is so incredibly easy. But it takes a little bit of effort from everyone. Not half of the country. Everyone. And that half that is refusing to take the most simple of steps, largely at the direction and example of their chosen political leader, are dooming the rest of us.

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I wear my mask wherever it is required…I hate it but I wear it. Nebraska loves to lecture people about masks…Everywhere I go people are wearing the stupid things. I’m getting on an airplane tomorrow…We’ll all be wearing our little masks. Yay us…The whole country has heard the lecture a million times.

This is a very common sense story…“Headline CDC shows COVID-19 has high survival rate; doctor still wants to see precautions taken”. The first paragraph. “A CDC update Wednesday says individuals are more likely to survive the coronavirus after contracting it. The health agency says if you have the virus between the ages of 0 to 70, you have a 99% survival rate. And if you’re over 70, the survival rate is nearly 95%…While this CDC update is a relief for many, doctors are extremely worried, and an NCH Healthcare System doctor hopes you still take precautions.”

On October 17 the NY Post published this story. How the media is misreporting COVID-19's death toll in America. Headline - " Here’s how the media is misreporting COVID-19’s death toll in America"

The piece reads this way. " On Sept. 22, CNN triumphantly announced that 200,000 people had died from COVID-19 in the United States…CNN tried various ways of rubbing in the 200,000 figure. Their best effort was an infographic blaring, “US COVID-19 deaths are equal to having the 9/11 attacks every day for 66 days.”…Here’s a less biased, but less catchy, comparison: 2020’s attributed COVID-19 deaths were equivalent to having another 2017-2018 flu and pneumonia season boosted by 13 percent…The CDC estimated that about 177,000 Americans died during the 2017-2018 flu season, from either the flu itself or by complications of pneumonia. (The CDC never made a public announcement about this number, but you can count it yourself from data on its site, as I did in the chart below.) That was a bad year, noted at the time, but mostly by medical professionals. Those with good memories will recall seeing more “Wash Your Hands” and “Cough Into Your Elbows” posters."

Like I said…We need to fall all over ourselves to take care of the truly vulnerable.

The fun thing is some of the manipulation of statistics.

Here’s a story that says " Coronavirus model projects U.S. deaths will surpass 400,000 by end of year". Coronavirus model projects U.S. deaths will surpass 400,000 by end of year - CBS News

Here’s another one that moves that goalpost back to January…"MSN

And another that moves that same goalpost to the end of February. US coronavirus deaths could approach 400,000 by February, model predicts - WISH-TV | Indianapolis News | Indiana Weather | Indiana Traffic

Maybe if those models included people who didn’t get medical care during the lockdowns, didn’t get cancer treatments or had heart issues or suffered from depression because they were locked up alone or considered suicide for the same reasons…They might be more accurate.

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But you’re not the audience I’m addressing, nor are the majority of the posters here. You’re actually taking precautions and not dismissing the situation outright - that’s the difference. In my particular Texas city, there was a noticeable uptick in defiance the same week that Trump emerged from Walter Reed with his “Covid ain’t ___” press conference, and too many people decided the pandemic was over. Unfortunately, our daily positive tracking is now off the charts and we’ve had a death spike among our elderly especially. I live in one of the reddest counties in the state and these are REAL numbers from our local government. We’re not exactly DNC operatives down here.

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I’m not so sure. The dollar is used right now in developing countries as a hedge against their own currency. They borrowed in dollars and must repay in dollars. That has created a lot of demand for our money. So much that there is more demand for dollars outside the US than inside.

I’m wondering what China would link their yuan to which would create value for an individual to barter with it.

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Like I said…we need to stand on our heads to protect seniors and the most vulnerable…

The rest of us need to live our lives.

I m very happy to have voted for President Trump…Biden is a mentally ailing old man who’s purpose is nothing more than to be the Trojan horse for far left kooks like AOC and Sanders and Warren and his nutty VP Harris…the grandstanding phony who slept her way into politics and is the biggest lib in the senate.

I listed many of the things President Trump has accomplished above…he’s done a good job. Biden sounds more and more like an angry old man…he’s been exposed for his corruption and we’ve all heard him lie about Hunter and fracking and more. I have no desire to see this great country turned over to the kook fringe left…

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You think the fears of liberals changing this country into a socialist state are unfounded eh? Care to talk about where we are today in terms of social spending versus say 1950?

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Unfounded no. Communism isn’t around the corner and whatever fear the poster has is just that much hysteria. Like every time you guys can may be possibly almost lose an election

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All I am hearing is, don’t worry, it’s incremental.

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With a ceiling. Communism isn’t the ceiling in this case

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If democrats have a ceiling on how much money they want to spend, I haven’t seen any evidence of it. What do you think it is? 50% of GDP? 60%? Higher?

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It’s understandable why many believe it is when the creators of the Green New Deal admit that it had nothing do with climate change and everything to do with controlling the populace, just like every other Democratic environmental policy.

Saikat Chakrabarti: “it wasn’t originally a climate thing at all … we really think of it as a how-do-you-change-the-entire-economy thing.”

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What’s the importance of energy production in an economy?

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Critical.

Feeds people who would not have food.

Who told Biden having car alarms drown out his speech was a good idea? It’s hilarious.

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Right so may be that quote, which of course wasn’t by Biden despite sudden onset of Tourette’s is actually not as scary as it appears?

May be?