Orygun
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Apparently- let them all stream in to have a meet and greet with elected officials.
Your made up story is just that. Made up.
You look at people and see what you want to see. I presented the other side of the fairy tale. Mainly because I do not convict people of things they have not done.
This is the same bull that the DOJ are pushing about parents getting angry at school board meetings. No one at any meeting has harmed one school board member. But the DOJ has made up the fairy tale in their heads about what is going to happen. Because let’s clutch our pearls some parents are angry and have shouted.
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The officer was a coward and shot an unarmed woman. He should be hiding in shame.
tnt
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Woah…what???
That’s pretty out there and offensive. I never said or implied any such thing.
Samm
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Then exactly what was the implication when you said " … and chants of ‘hang mike pence’, and beating cops, and ■■■■■■■■ on the floor of the capitol, and theft of property, and the leaving of threatening notes" in a thread where you have been trying to justify the killing of a woman for no other apparent reason than that she was part of a mob where a few participants were engaged in such behavior. If you condone her killing, are you not also saying that you would have condoned killing any or all of the rest of them?
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tnt
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Pointing out the real life things that people were doing in no way suggests I think they should be shot.
zantax
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You used it to justify her shooting.
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Orygun
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Guvnah explained it really well to you:
“They breached the building (by some accounts by invitation), but escalated their behavior by breaking a defensive barrier. A handful of LEOs facing a mob on the other side of the door, at the brink of breaking through… Were I there on the LEO side of the door, I would have considered it imminent danger in the immediate chaos of the situation. And it wouldn’t have been so much about danger to ME, but danger to the building I was defending and the occupants in it.
I chose “shoot in defense” deliberately for this reason.
It’s easy to apply other scenarios in the calm of retrospect. But when a handful of LEOs are vastly outnumbered by an advancing mob, the only equalizer in the moment is the bullet.
Something else about the Babbitt shooting. People are focusing on that one individual, and the placement of the bullet, as if the cop intended to hit her specifically, and hit that bodily location. My guess is that he shot a bullet into the crowd, and she was the one who got hit, and it was a fatal shot.
It did the job he intended. The advance of the whole mob was halted.
As I indicated in some of my earlier posts in this thread, the advance of the summertime rioters could also have been halted the same way once particular protests progressed into violence.”
zantax
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Lol, firing indiscriminately into the crowd, you think that’s legal?
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enki
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As opposed to trespassing, vandalizing, and attacking Capitol police officers?
Orygun
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They were the last defense against a mob attacking (sorry- gently greeting and hugging) elected officials. They had already beaten and maced numerous cops. Who knows what they would have done to elected officials they hated.
zantax
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Sorry, you don’t get to kill people for what they might do.
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Orygun
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Yes you get to defend elected officials against a pack of violent individuals who have already shown a willingness to gravely hurt people.
zantax
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Only until Republicans are back in charge, reminder, there is no statute of limitation on murder. If I were him I would be browsing travel brochures for countries with no extradition.
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Orygun
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I have no idea what you are talking about.
tnt
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I didn’t say a thing about her shooting.
I posted in response to this:
So, no, I didn’t.
tnt
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A million people…that’s a lot…
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