Like 1864, the Union should be able to pull off a Presidential election during this latest war

Glad you’re coming around to reality, it’s been a long march.

Not quite the same as Union soldiers blocking the door to polling stations, collecting and destroying the ballot boxes, and other acts of election theft

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Coercion and interference surely played at least some part in why there was a low turnout for the national election of 1864 in the midst of a civil war. That being said, the reality of the situation in outright soldier abuses as you seem to be portraying here seems extremely exaggerated, isolated and clearly unlawful.

I did quickly glance and found some instances where non-violent crimes were prosecuted though various local courts. Certainly both parties always look for wrongdoers. For example, look up Democrat Moses J. Ferry of New York. Republicans pounced on Ferry who ultimately confessed, was convicted and served prison time for forging the names and 1864 ballots of soldiers, some of them dead.

Republicans astutely back then rode the soldier-voting horse quite hard. A key focus for Lincoln’s re-election campaign was securing for himself:

"De facto" status as the friend of the soldier.

The mere presence of soldiers in uniform has deep roots in the connection between war and suffrage. This is an enduring political culture having ancient antecedents still embraced today. It is a true art to make citizen-soldiers feel special, holding a uniquely powerful claim on national affection and accommodation.

The court decision that was so wise and so just none of the five would put their names on the majority decision.

These same justices of course have shut themselves down from hearing oral arguments with no explanation as to when they might find some way to do their work remotely, the same as the rest of us who can work remotely and are doing it…but from their hidey holes, ruled that if people wanted to vote, they had to go out in public.

And it’s just a GIANT coincidence that the state is crucial for Donald Trump in November.

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And that if the Democrats were to have won the State Supreme Court seat that was in play last Tuesday, they would have enough votes on the court to block the next round of voter suppression coming from the Republican led legislature with the goal of reducing Democratic turnout.

According to recent MSNBC article the top court’s five Republican-appointees, none of whom attached their name to the court’s order, reasoned that extending the date by which voters could mail absentee ballots “fundamentally alters the nature of the election.”

“Wisconsin has decided to proceed with the elections scheduled for Tuesday, April 7. The wisdom of that decision is not the question before the Court,” the order reads. “The question before the Court is a narrow, technical question about the absentee ballot process.”

Reasonable to conclude JayJay in fact so “narrow” as to why the Supreme Court disposed of this Wisconsin case offering a per curiam opinion, not identifying an author.

It’s deliberate for either political party to improve optics in positioning their respective candidates to prevail, particularly in battleground states like Wisconsin. Just like it is NO GIANT coincidence that Wisconsin governor Evers is a Democrat signing an executive order in a futile attempt to disregard applicable voting laws currently in effect.

No he tried to do it the right way…the GOP led legislature refused to even convene.

And here we are still waiting for Wisconsin’s results, putting to the lie the idea it had to be so rushed or that delaying it would “fundamentally alter the election”.

SCOTUS went so narrow for one reason and one reason only…plain to see.

Too dangerous for SCOTUS to hold oral arguments.

Not too dangerous for thousands and thousands of citizens to go vote.

That’s why the dem party wants it imo. Easier to steal the election.

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Great argument, but every time there is an investigation into Republican claims of voter fraud, the results are that no fraud occurs or that the level of fraud is far to trivial to affect outcomes.

The lack of evidence never seems to dent Republican faith in the claims of fraud however.

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You mean…like a ballot being mailed to Mar a Lago…and then someone delivers it to the White House?

That kind of vote harvesting?

:sunglasses:

LOL, actually Evers did it the “left way.

Congresses on both a Federal and state levels can utilize unanimous consents as an effective way to get important legislation passed when otherwise a quorum must be minimally present to vote. Pretending like any POTUS or Governor of a legislative branch not controlled by the GOP will embrace the idea of convening is partisan spin.

According to Wisconsin.gov official website on April 3rd, Governor Evers issued Executive Order 73 ordering extending the Spring 2020 election to May 19, 2020, and provides that all registered voters who have not yet been sent an absentee ballot or cast their ballet through in-person absentee voting be sent an absentee ballot.

Then on April 6th, Executive Order 74, Relating to suspending in-person voting on April 7, 2020, due to the COVID-19.

The SCOTUS frequently disposes of cases summarily and often without oral argument. To suggest/assert a claim that the Supreme Court will not hold an oral argument, as they deem appropriate, whether during this health crisis or for any other emergency situation is utterly ridiculous.

What apparently is not too dangerous for thousands and thousands of citizens to do right now (according to ALL 50 governors) is to leave their homes freely to food shop, pick up prescriptions and yes to your point and vote too…

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And mail in ballots are ripe for fraud. Which the dems understand. Which is why they are so desperate to have them. We need a real election on election night. Why would anybody want to deprive us of watching the clowns in the MSN outlets cry again? That was some great T.V! :slightly_smiling_face:

No mail in ballots are not ripe for fraud.

There is zero evidence for this.

For example, in absentee ballot voting…which is simply mail in voting by a different name…in a twelve year period covering 2001-2012, there were less than 500 cases of alleged fraud (ALLEGED fraud) out of 146 MILLION absentee ballots cast.

That is an allegation rate of…wait for it…0.0003%.

To the contrary H_Arendt: In 2018, check out justicialwatch.org for evidence of voter fraud:

On their website includes details where the US Supreme Court upheld a massive voter clean up that resulted from a Judicial Watch settlement of a federal lawsuit with Ohio.

And California also settling a similar lawsuit that last year began the process of removing up to 1.5 million “inactive” names from Los Angeles County voting rolls.

Then in Kentucky also began a clean up to 250,000 names last year after it entered into a consent decree to end another Judicial Watch lawsuit.

Their list of voting list issues continues to grow at a feverish pace.

Counties from Pennsylvania, North Carolina, Virginia and Colorado are disclosed too.

Even if Dems win that seat, they will still be the minority on the bench.

That’s what every liberal says. We’ve never had a mail in election before.

Is that evidence of voter fraud or evidence of needing to update voter records? If you can show evidence of voter fraud, please do so. Showing states updating their voter rolls does not mean people are voting fraudulently.

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Judicial elections. :face_vomiting:

Two words that should not be together.

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“Should” is what governments legally enforce, not what otherwise sounds like personal opinion.

Wisconsin had enacted legislation to mandate election of their state justices dating back during the Civil War…

I was enunciating the viewpoint that Judges should not be elected, period. Not in Wisconsin. Not anywhere. Not at any level of judicial office, from Justice of the Peace to the Supreme Court.

Electing Judges is just ******* stupid, period.

And partisan election of Judges is worse than ******* stupid.

We should go to merit selection for all Judges, a system that has worked excellently everywhere it has been tried.