Libya Uncovers Alleged Russian Plot to Meddle in African Votes

[Apocalypto]

All it takes is one tweet for it to go viral. Here’s a perfect example of a bot completely doing its damage on a massive scale.

https://twitter.com/viveka/status/1146924614171283456?s=21

https://twitter.com/zhyar199/status/1146764024207597574?s=21

[CaughtInTheMiddle]

@gooddad409

@NJBob

@7ranz

@NJBob

@7ranz

@NJBob

What sucks even more is when a foreign country meddles in the US.

Especially if it was done via facebook posts.

Yes, that was part of it but there was much more.

It is however amazing how effective that was with low information voters.

You’d think the rational would be that Clinton lost unjustly lost the election because of the electoral college. After all, she got the most votes.

But for some reason the go to for most people, it seems, is some nefarious super-effective Russian propaganda to make people not like Hilary Clinton.

How was it amazing how effective “it” was?

Even a little propaganda might tip an election one way or another it’s otherwise a close election.

It didn’t.

this is the post that Putin banks on.

[CaughtInTheMiddle]

@FloridaYankee

@gooddad409

I have a hard time thinking a hundred thousand dollars or so spent on mostly FB changed anything.

Didn’t Hillary spend a couple of billion?

120 million views on Facebook alone. Millions shared the fake crapola. Millions more on Twitter and other social media platforms. Forget the dollar amounts and look at the results they got.

Viral videos spreading like wildfire. That ■■■■ is free and reaches more people than they could ever manage on their own.

that’s actually the beauty of it for Putin. it doesn’t cost a fortune anymore to affect/reach millions.

[Tim]

@CaughtInTheMiddle

Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

"Laptops and memory sticks found with the suspects showed that they worked for an outfit identified as Fabrika Trollei, Russian for Troll Factory, that “specializes in influencing elections that are to be held in several African states” including Libya, the letter, stamped by the attorney general’s office and obtained by Bloomberg, stated. Two Libyan government officials with direct knowledge of the matter confirmed the authenticity of the document.

Fabrika Trollei was the moniker given to a network of media and political outfits connected to Russian oligarch Yevgeny Prigozhin, who’s been accused by the U.S. of funding and organizing operations to interfere in the 2016 presidential election."

Putin is just too smart for us. He found a way to control the world and he’s using that move over and over and over. No one is making him change his gameplan.

This is like watching one team run the ball down another team’s throat while the defensive coordinator twiddles his thumbs. There has to be thousands more of these trolls.

Let us know when Putin gets to this level of interference in Libya…

Secretary of State Clinton’s succinct reflection on the US mission in Libya. We came, we saw, he died.

Clinton on Qaddafi: We came, we saw, he died

[Guilds]

@gooddad409

I think they tried to meddle but i think the effect was minimum.

They did not just “try”, they successfully meddled.
Considering Trump won by a little over 70k votes, over 3 states the Russians targeted, the effect was enough to change the outcome.

[7ranz]

@FloridaYankee

@7ranz

@NJBob

@7ranz

@NJBob

What sucks even more is when a foreign country meddles in the US.

Especially if it was done via facebook posts.

Yes, that was part of it but there was much more.

It is however amazing how effective that was with low information voters.

You’d think the rational would be that Clinton lost unjustly lost the election because of the electoral college. After all, she got the most votes.

But for some reason the go to for most people, it seems, is some nefarious super-effective Russian propaganda to make people not like Hilary Clinton.

How was it amazing how effective “it” was?

A significant number of dis-heartened democrats stayed home, not voting at all. In Florida for example 80% of republicans voted but only 74% of democrats. Had 80% of democrats in Florida voted, the state and thus the presidency go to Hillary. Kinda makes you wonder how many stayed home because of the troll farm just taking the wind out of their sails. 120 million views on Facebook alone and millions more on Twitter, instagram etc.

You think that roughly 6% of Florida Democrats stayed home because of Russia?

[7ranz]

@Axxowiz

You would think bombing the country to hell, overthrowing the leader, and then the country being taken over by militants would be considered meddling.

You’d think so.

[FloridaYankee]

@7ranz

@FloridaYankee

@7ranz

@NJBob

@7ranz

@NJBob

What sucks even more is when a foreign country meddles in the US.

Especially if it was done via facebook posts.

Yes, that was part of it but there was much more.

It is however amazing how effective that was with low information voters.

You’d think the rational would be that Clinton lost unjustly lost the election because of the electoral college. After all, she got the most votes.

But for some reason the go to for most people, it seems, is some nefarious super-effective Russian propaganda to make people not like Hilary Clinton.

How was it amazing how effective “it” was?

A significant number of dis-heartened democrats stayed home, not voting at all. In Florida for example 80% of republicans voted but only 74% of democrats. Had 80% of democrats in Florida voted, the state and thus the presidency go to Hillary. Kinda makes you wonder how many stayed home because of the troll farm just taking the wind out of their sails. 120 million views on Facebook alone and millions more on Twitter, instagram etc.

You think that roughly 6% of Florida Democrats stayed home because of Russia?

I don’t know but it got pretty darn ugly in the last few weeks. The email thing sure was strategically timed for maximum effect, but who “released” the hacked emails at that time?

[7ranz]

@FloridaYankee

@7ranz

@FloridaYankee

@7ranz

@NJBob

@7ranz

@NJBob

What sucks even more is when a foreign country meddles in the US.

Especially if it was done via facebook posts.

Yes, that was part of it but there was much more.

It is however amazing how effective that was with low information voters.

You’d think the rational would be that Clinton lost unjustly lost the election because of the electoral college. After all, she got the most votes.

But for some reason the go to for most people, it seems, is some nefarious super-effective Russian propaganda to make people not like Hilary Clinton.

How was it amazing how effective “it” was?

A significant number of dis-heartened democrats stayed home, not voting at all. In Florida for example 80% of republicans voted but only 74% of democrats. Had 80% of democrats in Florida voted, the state and thus the presidency go to Hillary. Kinda makes you wonder how many stayed home because of the troll farm just taking the wind out of their sails. 120 million views on Facebook alone and millions more on Twitter, instagram etc.

You think that roughly 6% of Florida Democrats stayed home because of Russia?

I don’t know but it got pretty darn ugly in the last few weeks. The email thing sure was strategically timed for maximum effect, but who “released” the hacked emails at that time?

Blaming Russia for the election loss is the denial stage of the grieving process. I mean she lost to the Celebrity Apprentice guy. Why was that even close?

And yes plenty of Russians don’t like the Clintons. The whole Yeltsin thing had consequences.

[Plasmaball]

I remember a segment i saw on TV once. They went around a college campus asking people if they wanted to ban h2o. They did…

Then I listened to a podcast about right wing pages on. Facebook and how it was major money ginning up outrage over stories. Until Facebook changed its policies.

Picking off 20000 in Wisconsin isnt exactly that hard to do.

So your making the argument the USA isnt any better…true.we invaded Libya for no real reason and we shouldn’t have. That doesnt make what Russia is doing any less terrible.

[7ranz]

@Plasmaball

I remember a segment i saw on TV once. They went around a college campus asking people if they wanted to ban h2o. They did…

Then I listened to a podcast about right wing pages on. Facebook and how it was major money ginning up outrage over stories. Until Facebook changed its policies.

Picking off 20000 in Wisconsin isnt exactly that hard to do.

So your making the argument the USA isnt any better…true.we invaded Libya for no real reason and we shouldn’t have. That doesnt make what Russia is doing any less terrible.

You see that’s a good point. However, I think the focus there should be clearly on Facebook and their algorithms (similarly with Youtube). I mean Russia’s attempt to influence on our legislation was minimal/half-assed. And it is a bit rich for us to be complaining about influencing another countries political situation. Guaidó says hi.

[FloridaYankee]

@7ranz

@FloridaYankee

@7ranz

@FloridaYankee

@7ranz

@NJBob

@7ranz

@NJBob

What sucks even more is when a foreign country meddles in the US.

Especially if it was done via facebook posts.

Yes, that was part of it but there was much more.

It is however amazing how effective that was with low information voters.

You’d think the rational would be that Clinton lost unjustly lost the election because of the electoral college. After all, she got the most votes.

But for some reason the go to for most people, it seems, is some nefarious super-effective Russian propaganda to make people not like Hilary Clinton.

How was it amazing how effective “it” was?

A significant number of dis-heartened democrats stayed home, not voting at all. In Florida for example 80% of republicans voted but only 74% of democrats. Had 80% of democrats in Florida voted, the state and thus the presidency go to Hillary. Kinda makes you wonder how many stayed home because of the troll farm just taking the wind out of their sails. 120 million views on Facebook alone and millions more on Twitter, instagram etc.

You think that roughly 6% of Florida Democrats stayed home because of Russia?

I don’t know but it got pretty darn ugly in the last few weeks. The email thing sure was strategically timed for maximum effect, but who “released” the hacked emails at that time?

Blaming Russia for the election loss is the denial stage of the grieving process. I mean she lost to the Celebrity Apprentice guy. Why was that even close?

And yes plenty of Russians don’t like the Clintons. The whole Yeltsin thing had consequences.

Huh? I’m not blaming anybody, just raising questions that don’t seem to have clear cut answers. I can’t stand Clinton, she’s a crook. The denial is coming from the right.

[7ranz]

@FloridaYankee

@7ranz

@FloridaYankee

@7ranz

@FloridaYankee

@7ranz

@NJBob

@7ranz

@NJBob

What sucks even more is when a foreign country meddles in the US.

Especially if it was done via facebook posts.

Yes, that was part of it but there was much more.

It is however amazing how effective that was with low information voters.

You’d think the rational would be that Clinton lost unjustly lost the election because of the electoral college. After all, she got the most votes.

But for some reason the go to for most people, it seems, is some nefarious super-effective Russian propaganda to make people not like Hilary Clinton.

How was it amazing how effective “it” was?

A significant number of dis-heartened democrats stayed home, not voting at all. In Florida for example 80% of republicans voted but only 74% of democrats. Had 80% of democrats in Florida voted, the state and thus the presidency go to Hillary. Kinda makes you wonder how many stayed home because of the troll farm just taking the wind out of their sails. 120 million views on Facebook alone and millions more on Twitter, instagram etc.

You think that roughly 6% of Florida Democrats stayed home because of Russia?

I don’t know but it got pretty darn ugly in the last few weeks. The email thing sure was strategically timed for maximum effect, but who “released” the hacked emails at that time?

Blaming Russia for the election loss is the denial stage of the grieving process. I mean she lost to the Celebrity Apprentice guy. Why was that even close?

And yes plenty of Russians don’t like the Clintons. The whole Yeltsin thing had consequences.

Huh? I’m not blaming anybody, just raising questions that don’t seem to have clear cut answers. I can’t stand Clinton, she’s a crook. The denial is coming from the right.

Sorry, that post was more of a general statement. It wasn’t aimed at you specifically. I should have been more clear.

[Plasmaball]

It’s a little deeper than Facebook ads.

[7ranz]

@Plasmaball

It’s a little deeper than Facebook ads.

Sure, but do you think the facebook algorithm leading people to Breitbart articles regularly was less of a factor than whatever a bunch of Russian hackers did?

[Plasmaball]

Eh…that’s kinda baked in…mimicking a black lives matter group in order to lie is a little different than BB.

[7ranz]

@Plasmaball

Eh…that’s kinda baked in…mimicking a black lives matter group in order to lie is a little different than BB.

I have a hard time believing that a fake BLM facebook group was more significant than facebook regularly leading people to the most viewed right wing website at the time.

The problem with the Russia narrative, besides being ridiculous, is that it allows people to blame Russia for the results of the election without any significant self-reflection.

Not only that it results in a weird ass hatred for Russia. We are in a thread about how Russia is meddling in Libyan politics.And we are supposed to be mad about that. For some reason. 2011 didn’t happen.

[Plasmaball]

We argued on Facebook if a dress was blue or gold and you are having a hard time over this? You give humans too much credit.

Did you read the report? Did you read the texts between Manafort and our host on how Manafort wasnt gonna give up trump or Kushner.

I didnt vote for Hillary or trump but I know lying con men when I see some.

[7ranz]

@Plasmaball

We argued on Facebook if a dress was blue or gold and you are having a hard time over this? You give humans too much credit.

I mean we are ok once you get to know us.

Did you read the report? Did you read the texts between Manafort and our host on how Manafort wasnt gonna give up trump or Kushner.

I did not.

I didnt vote for Hillary or trump but I know lying con men when I see some.

I did vote for Hillary. Colorado is a swing state so I wasn’t going to mess around with Jill Stein this time. Not that it mattered. lol.

[Plasmaball]

Sometimes…

That’s a issue.

I’m in ohio…still had my principles…I knew what we would get with trump…America needed this