Libs cage Mary, Joseph, and Jesus

Call_me_Ishmael · 2018-07-05T13:00:42.706Z

NuffSaid:

And to use a counter-argument, 8 years of the previous administration…almost every subject included him. Immigration, debt, economy, world issues.

Everything gets politicized, everything. Nutjob who shot at the congressional baseball game…he was a liberal who hated Trump. Why does it have to go there?

How many issues don’t involve what the current administration is doing? Economy? Could discuss trends, forecasting, but many immediately go “Trump is winning! He made the economy this great.” Mideast conflicts? “Trump desolated ISIS.”

How about you start a thread that doesn’t immediately blame liberals for all the woes of the world and puts Trump on a pedestal?

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Camp · 2018-07-05T13:43:59.549Z

EPICally off the mark.

Where are children being held outdoors in temporary dog runs by the DHHS?

Maybe we should eliminate the department of health and human services?

https://www.hhs.gov

zantax · 2018-07-05T13:49:06.104Z

God seemed kind of gung ho on obeying the law.

Romans 13 1-5

Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God. Therefore whoever resists the authorities resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment. For rulers are not a terror to good conduct, but to bad. Would you have no fear of the one who is in authority? Then do what is good, and you will receive his approval, for he is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword in vain. For he is the servant of God, an avenger who carries out God’s wrath on the wrongdoer. Therefore one must be in subjection, not only to avoid God’s wrath but also for the sake of conscience.

Peter 2 13-17

Be subject for the Lord’s sake to every human institution, whether it be to the emperor as supreme, or to governors as sent by him to punish those who do evil and to praise those who do good. For this is the will of God, that by doing good you should put to silence the ignorance of foolish people. Live as people who are free, not using your freedom as a cover-up for evil, but living as servants of God. Honor everyone. Love the brotherhood. Fear God. Honor the emperor.

Romans 3 31

Do we then overthrow the law by this faith? By no means! On the contrary, we uphold the law.

Call_me_Ishmael · 2018-07-05T13:57:55.745Z

NuffSaid:

How about you start a thread that doesn’t immediately blame liberals for all the woes of the world and puts Trump on a pedestal

who mentions Trump first

The cure for white supremacy Politics

I thought you were going to say Trump.

Illegal_Alien · 2018-07-05T14:02:55.222Z

you are using VOX as a Legit news source?
I posted a Vox thread because it shows how to not take it as a serious news source.
I wouldn’t want people to post Infowars either.

Posting Vox as a source for “facts” doesn’t help your argument it makes it weaker.

Call_me_Ishmael · 2018-07-05T14:25:50.917Z

NuffSaid:

How about you start a thread that doesn’t immediately blame liberals for all the woes of the world and puts Trump on a pedestal

maybe you were just ignorant about how all the other stuff that could be used to identify ones place in the sociopolitical spectrum pales in importance to TRUMP HATING.

madasheck · 2018-07-05T14:46:03.508Z

DougBH:

If they cam into the country illegally, they are by definition not innocent.

Asking for asylum isn’t a crime.

Call_me_Ishmael · 2018-07-05T14:47:40.203Z

madasheck:

DougBH:

If they cam into the country illegally, they are by definition not innocent.

Asking for asylum isn’t a crime.

no. but crossing the border illegally before you ask for asylum is.

madasheck · 2018-07-05T14:49:00.778Z

NuffSaid:

Was always told here that liberals were atheists who hated religion.

So why are the religious folks protesting Trump now “liberals”? Shouldn’t these be god-loving conservatives who are misled?

It’s convenience that shapes the dialogue of those supporting Trump.

madasheck · 2018-07-05T14:50:49.412Z

Call_me_Ishmael:

NuffSaid:

Was always told here that liberals were atheists who hated religion.

So why are the religious folks protesting Trump now “liberals”? Shouldn’t these be god-loving conservatives who are misled?

this brand of religious people serve Liberalism first, God second.

madasheck:

It’s convenience that shapes the dialogue of those supporting Trump.

What did I just finish saying?

Smyrna · 2018-07-05T14:52:33.148Z

madasheck:

It’s convenience that shapes the dialogue of those supporting Trump.

vs miss representing the truth, as you did. In the court of law that would reside over their request for asylum, that’s called a lie and the person that said it would be deemed a liar.

Call_me_Ishmael · 2018-07-05T15:17:17.782Z

NuffSaid:

How about you start a thread that doesn’t immediately blame liberals for all the woes of the world and puts Trump on a pedestal?

so ready to admit you were wrong?

madasheck · 2018-07-05T15:22:20.384Z

Call_me_Ishmael:

madasheck:

DougBH:

If they cam into the country illegally, they are by definition not innocent.

Asking for asylum isn’t a crime.

no. but crossing the border illegally before you ask for asylum is.

You might want to read this story for what’s really going on.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/us-judge-blocks-trump-crackdown-on-asylum-seekers-bars-blanket-detentions-of-those-with-persecution-claims/2018/07/02/cdc707ba-7e36-11e8-b660-4d0f9f0351f1_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.126e411b5545

madasheck · 2018-07-05T15:23:59.429Z

Smyrna:

madasheck:

It’s convenience that shapes the dialogue of those supporting Trump.

vs miss representing the truth, as you did. In the court of law that would reside over their request for asylum, that’s called a lie and the person that said it would be deemed a liar.

That’s what the right is yelling, but that’s not what’s happening. Trump is ignoring any legit asylum requests.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/us-judge-blocks-trump-crackdown-on-asylum-seekers-bars-blanket-detentions-of-those-with-persecution-claims/2018/07/02/cdc707ba-7e36-11e8-b660-4d0f9f0351f1_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.126e411b5545

Smyrna · 2018-07-05T15:26:14.417Z

madasheck:

That’s what the right is yelling, but that’s not what’s happening. Trump is ignoring any legit asylum requests.

Washington Post

U.S. judge blocks Trump crackdown on asylum seekers, bars blanket detentions of…

Injunction covers 1,000 asylum applicants held at five ICE field offices for up to two years.

The article says they are to be given a hearing or released? If we don’t have enough judges, I’d release them on the other side of the border.

Call_me_Ishmael · 2018-07-05T15:28:03.570Z

what’s going on is that someone made an accusation. I did not read that these “asylum” seekers did not first cross the border illegally.

madasheck · 2018-07-05T16:04:47.101Z

Smyrna:

madasheck:

It’s convenience that shapes the dialogue of those supporting Trump.

vs miss representing the truth, as you did. In the court of law that would reside over their request for asylum, that’s called a lie and the person that said it would be deemed a liar.

Given the circumstances I mentioned, that’s like making a snowball out of water.

madasheck · 2018-07-05T16:06:34.707Z

Smyrna:

madasheck:

That’s what the right is yelling, but that’s not what’s happening. Trump is ignoring any legit asylum requests.

Washington Post

U.S. judge blocks Trump crackdown on asylum seekers, bars blanket detentions of…

Injunction covers 1,000 asylum applicants held at five ICE field offices for up to two years.

The article says they are to be given a hearing or released? If we don’t have enough judges, I’d release them on the other side of the border.

Of course. Just shove them aside.

Smyrna · 2018-07-05T16:24:46.610Z

madasheck:

Of course. Just shove them aside.

Oh…you’re on your way down there with your checkbook?

SpacemanSpiff · 2018-07-05T16:48:28.410Z

Yeah, but this scene takes place after baby Jesus was born. Thus giving them plenty of time to illegally cross a border somewhere.