Libs cage Mary, Joseph, and Jesus

Jamerican · 2018-07-05T12:05:25.352Z

NuffSaid:

Was always told here that liberals were atheists who hated religion.

So why are the religious folks protesting Trump now “liberals”? Shouldn’t these be god-loving conservatives who are misled?

This is what I don’t understand. I’ve been anti-trump even before he got the nomination. On this board myself and many others were automatically put in the Lib category because of it. Not only is 45 not a conservative he does not have the country well being in mind and folks are not holding him accountable.

Call_me_Ishmael · 2018-07-05T12:08:33.584Z

Smyrna:

Call_me_Ishmael:

the error they make is believing the government will stand in for them on judgement day. No amount of government cheese will count as a good work or act of love on these peoples’ spiritual accounts. They will be held accountable for what THEY do… not what they make the government do.

Discerning between Communism and Christianity is hard for some?

Libs must think Marx was a disciple of Jesus… or that somehow - just by random chance - all the socialist tenets line up with good Christianity.

But here is the Socialists’ real view. Some exerpts:

As you probably know, we are atheists and materialists. The fact that you recognize that religion in general supports the ruling classes is important.

First, I would like to explain why we do not in general accept people who believe in God. Then I would like to give you a few of arguments against belief in God…. I hope that they give you reason to re-examine your belief in God.

https://www.marxists.org/history/etol/newspape/socialistvoice/atheistsPR66.html

they believe that morals are framed as class interests. They see feeding the poor as nothing but a political activity… not an act of love. Likewise, they want no person should rely on faith for their manna. To a socialist, one person giving to another is simply an inefficient means of distribution. Thus, the state supplants God in the lives of people and giving is an act -not of love - but of recruiting revolutionaries.

Smyrna · 2018-07-05T12:11:24.310Z

Call_me_Ishmael:

they believe that morals are framed as class interests. They see feeding the poor as nothing but a political activity… not an act of love. Likewise, they want no person should rely on faith for their manna. To a socialist, one person giving to another is simply an inefficient means of distribution. Thus, the state supplants God in the lives of people and giving is an act -not of love - but of recruiting revolutionaries.

One of the greatest lessons The Lord has taught me is that you can’t out give Him but the path to receive this knowledge is hard.

NuffSaid · 2018-07-05T12:14:23.967Z

It’s a mentality of having to categorize everyone. And usually it stems from an “us vs them” mentality.

“Oh, you dont like Trump (or any republican person), you are a lib!”

For some, there isn’t room for more than one group. Notice a lot of threads are started as “Democrats” or “Liberals”, meaning everyone who opposes my opinion.

Smyrna · 2018-07-05T12:19:04.953Z

NuffSaid:

It’s a mentality of having to categorize everyone. And usually it stems from an “us vs them” mentality.

“Oh, you dont like Trump (or any republican person), you are a lib!”

For some, there isn’t room for more than one group. Notice a lot of threads are started as “Democrats” or “Liberals”, meaning everyone who opposes my opinion.

I don’t completely disagree with you but I’d also add that it’s due to the “attack mode” against a Trump supporter that categorizes so many into one opposing group.

Call_me_Ishmael · 2018-07-05T12:41:06.091Z

NuffSaid:

It’s a mentality of having to categorize everyone. And usually it stems from an “us vs them” mentality.

“Oh, you dont like Trump (or any republican person), you are a lib!”

For some, there isn’t room for more than one group. Notice a lot of threads are started as “Democrats” or “Liberals”, meaning everyone who opposes my opinion.

There are multiple areas of political thought that could be used for a more accurate placement of one’s views in a sociopolitical plane. But the only one that matters here is TRUMP. Show me otherwise.

Show me how many threads have no mention of Trump here. It is minuscule if not zero. Should there not be threads on free trade that have no mention of the current administration? Same with immigration, budget, Mideast unrest, etc etc.

But there are none.

I’m sure there are fighters in any war who do not share all the beliefs of their leaders. But if you wear the uniform and attack ours, then you are counted on that side.

Eat your peas, Lib.

NuffSaid · 2018-07-05T12:52:11.901Z

And to use a counter-argument, 8 years of the previous administration…almost every subject included him. Immigration, debt, economy, world issues.

Everything gets politicized, everything. Nutjob who shot at the congressional baseball game…he was a liberal who hated Trump. Why does it have to go there?

How many issues don’t involve what the current administration is doing? Economy? Could discuss trends, forecasting, but many immediately go “Trump is winning! He made the economy this great.” Mideast conflicts? “Trump desolated ISIS.”

How about you start a thread that doesn’t immediately blame liberals for all the woes of the world and puts Trump on a pedestal?

Call_me_Ishmael · 2018-07-05T13:00:42.706Z

NuffSaid:

And to use a counter-argument, 8 years of the previous administration…almost every subject included him. Immigration, debt, economy, world issues.

Everything gets politicized, everything. Nutjob who shot at the congressional baseball game…he was a liberal who hated Trump. Why does it have to go there?

How many issues don’t involve what the current administration is doing? Economy? Could discuss trends, forecasting, but many immediately go “Trump is winning! He made the economy this great.” Mideast conflicts? “Trump desolated ISIS.”

How about you start a thread that doesn’t immediately blame liberals for all the woes of the world and puts Trump on a pedestal?

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Camp · 2018-07-05T13:43:59.549Z

EPICally off the mark.

Where are children being held outdoors in temporary dog runs by the DHHS?

Maybe we should eliminate the department of health and human services?

https://www.hhs.gov

zantax · 2018-07-05T13:49:06.104Z

God seemed kind of gung ho on obeying the law.

Romans 13 1-5

Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God. Therefore whoever resists the authorities resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment. For rulers are not a terror to good conduct, but to bad. Would you have no fear of the one who is in authority? Then do what is good, and you will receive his approval, for he is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword in vain. For he is the servant of God, an avenger who carries out God’s wrath on the wrongdoer. Therefore one must be in subjection, not only to avoid God’s wrath but also for the sake of conscience.

Peter 2 13-17

Be subject for the Lord’s sake to every human institution, whether it be to the emperor as supreme, or to governors as sent by him to punish those who do evil and to praise those who do good. For this is the will of God, that by doing good you should put to silence the ignorance of foolish people. Live as people who are free, not using your freedom as a cover-up for evil, but living as servants of God. Honor everyone. Love the brotherhood. Fear God. Honor the emperor.

Romans 3 31

Do we then overthrow the law by this faith? By no means! On the contrary, we uphold the law.

Call_me_Ishmael · 2018-07-05T13:57:55.745Z

NuffSaid:

How about you start a thread that doesn’t immediately blame liberals for all the woes of the world and puts Trump on a pedestal

who mentions Trump first

The cure for white supremacy Politics

I thought you were going to say Trump.

Illegal_Alien · 2018-07-05T14:02:55.222Z

you are using VOX as a Legit news source?
I posted a Vox thread because it shows how to not take it as a serious news source.
I wouldn’t want people to post Infowars either.

Posting Vox as a source for “facts” doesn’t help your argument it makes it weaker.

Call_me_Ishmael · 2018-07-05T14:25:50.917Z

NuffSaid:

How about you start a thread that doesn’t immediately blame liberals for all the woes of the world and puts Trump on a pedestal

maybe you were just ignorant about how all the other stuff that could be used to identify ones place in the sociopolitical spectrum pales in importance to TRUMP HATING.

madasheck · 2018-07-05T14:46:03.508Z

DougBH:

If they cam into the country illegally, they are by definition not innocent.

Asking for asylum isn’t a crime.

Call_me_Ishmael · 2018-07-05T14:47:40.203Z

madasheck:

DougBH:

If they cam into the country illegally, they are by definition not innocent.

Asking for asylum isn’t a crime.

no. but crossing the border illegally before you ask for asylum is.

madasheck · 2018-07-05T14:49:00.778Z

NuffSaid:

Was always told here that liberals were atheists who hated religion.

So why are the religious folks protesting Trump now “liberals”? Shouldn’t these be god-loving conservatives who are misled?

It’s convenience that shapes the dialogue of those supporting Trump.

madasheck · 2018-07-05T14:50:49.412Z

Call_me_Ishmael:

NuffSaid:

Was always told here that liberals were atheists who hated religion.

So why are the religious folks protesting Trump now “liberals”? Shouldn’t these be god-loving conservatives who are misled?

this brand of religious people serve Liberalism first, God second.

madasheck:

It’s convenience that shapes the dialogue of those supporting Trump.

What did I just finish saying?

Smyrna · 2018-07-05T14:52:33.148Z

madasheck:

It’s convenience that shapes the dialogue of those supporting Trump.

vs miss representing the truth, as you did. In the court of law that would reside over their request for asylum, that’s called a lie and the person that said it would be deemed a liar.

Call_me_Ishmael · 2018-07-05T15:17:17.782Z

NuffSaid:

How about you start a thread that doesn’t immediately blame liberals for all the woes of the world and puts Trump on a pedestal?

so ready to admit you were wrong?

madasheck · 2018-07-05T15:22:20.384Z

Call_me_Ishmael:

madasheck:

DougBH:

If they cam into the country illegally, they are by definition not innocent.

Asking for asylum isn’t a crime.

no. but crossing the border illegally before you ask for asylum is.

You might want to read this story for what’s really going on.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/us-judge-blocks-trump-crackdown-on-asylum-seekers-bars-blanket-detentions-of-those-with-persecution-claims/2018/07/02/cdc707ba-7e36-11e8-b660-4d0f9f0351f1_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.126e411b5545