Libs are you FINALLY ready to throw in the towel on Russia?

Regardless of how many years I’ll have left, I will always be able to know that everything I have or will leave behind I worked for.
Screw the wealthy and the bluenosers, if they have more than enough then good for them.

That’s something to be proud about, for sure. I’d like to think that’s what we all (or at least most of us) strive for.

Congrats, retirement starts with a plan. Going out early? Good on you. Enjoy

Thanks.

And I worked for a lot of what I have.

I do acknowledge though that I benefited greatly from the government wealth building programs that built the white middle class in the 20th century and I am a little curious as to why people seem to be working to dismantle what made America great in favor of most of the wealth being accumulated at the top.

It makes little sense to me.

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Doesn’t take a MA from MIT to figure out the liberal-socialists have an agenda. Let em waste their time, Joseph Goebbels (paraphrasing) said :“tell a lie often enough and it will be perceived as truth”.

Both political parties have “agendas,” and both involve lying.

And that’s the problem. Conservatives see the tax code as the means to fund the government. Liberals see it as a way to punish people who have done better than them.

I am not a millionaire. But I know some. I go on outdoor adventures with a small group. All of them have more money than me. Two are for sure millionaires. When it’s time to pay the national park fee, or buy a round of drinks, I wouldn’t dare skip my turn. Even though they don’t need my money. I would be embarrassed not to pay my own way. Everybody should pay something. Existing as only a receiver without giving anything is bad for the soul.

I don’t think that one can argue with a straight face that conservatives “fund” the government. They enjoy just as much government, but leave the funding to people who aren’t even born yet.

Now… onto the the idea of punishment.

It isn’t punishment that is being discussed here. It is about how a modern, very wealthy, post industrial western democracy organizes it’s economy and benefits from that economy.

What we are seeing now is the beginnings of the failure of the Chicago school Utopian economics and the reaction to that which is Neo Liberalism.

What I ask is that the country returns to more of the economic ethos of the mid 20th century but without all of the overt racism and sexism.

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We’re going to have to disagree then. Eternal tinkering with the tax code. Or fix it and leave it.

There will always be eternal tinkering.

It is a pipe dream to think otherwise.

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::+1:

No it isn’t.

It’s not regressive. That’s not what regressive tax means.

There are a lot of feelings in this post. So many feelings.

Then why do they keep cutting taxes?

That’s what you say when you want to belittle the person without addressing the point. Am I right?

Because we have been tinkering with the tax system for 100 years and nobody can agree on what’s “fair.” A flat tax will solve this.

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Well alrightythen I guess it’s settled. :smirk:

No it won’t. You said " Conservatives see the tax code as the means to fund the government"

Tax cuts REDUCE the amount of money the govt gets so cons DON’T see the tax code as the means to fund the government.