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Competing goals

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Thereā€™s not going to be any ā€œsocietyā€.

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Exactly backwards. Your fear does not trump my rights.

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639

Whatā€™s selfish? IMO are those staying home and relaying on other people to pick up or pay for your slacking. That IMO is selfish.

As for America meeting my needs. I havenā€™t ask our ā– ā– ā– ā– ā– ā– ā–  goverment for one damn thing or penny in my entire life except to stay the ā– ā– ā– ā–  out of it. And goverment canā€™t even do that.

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640

Not sure if youā€™ve seen this, but seems to be informative. Maybe it has your answer?

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I donā€™t think there will be a vaccine.

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642

Yes. Going to finish off my brother camper. Order some materials for one job and have backhoe coming for a another. Oh and I have some tile to set. Then hopefully when things settle down fireplace mantel with built in bookshelves.

You see what Iā€™m getting at? Iā€™ve put my life on hold for almost 8 weeks now. Time to get with it again.

But apparently ā€œsomeā€ people had found their new found life more appealing.

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643

I agree that the stateā€™s downward slope is steeper than King Co.
So it would be really useful information if we knew what the more urban areas are doing (or not doing) to cause so many new infections.

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Wait a minute. No one owes anyone a damn thing. That means I donā€™t owe anyone anything in taxes that Iā€™m currently working to provide the basement dwellers a government sit back and get fat check. So ā– ā– ā– ā–  it! If everyone is on there own, then letā€™s make it so!

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645

Precisely. If I have to build safe rooms or even private fortress Iā€™m gong to build something somewhere. Iā€™ll find something to do.

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646

By the time it comes out it may not be needed. I still like to know more about the anti-body tests.

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Nightlife, drugs, tight living quarters etc to name a few things.

I see homosexual neighborhoods are keeping things safe. :crazy_face:

648

I do. Probably about 30% effective.

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649

Nothing. Itā€™s a density problem.

650

You can come down here and work on my place all you want to.

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Asymptomatic carriers are a far bigger issue than those who are symptomatic.

If someone looks like hell generally and has the symptoms they are very easy to identify and send home.

652

To them itā€™s all the govā€™ts money so those of us who think were entitled to keep as much as possible of what we earn are greedy while those who covet what we earn and accumulate are not.

Jabberwockies have taken control of the Democratic Party.

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653

Yes, thanks, I look at this daily.
Unfortunately it doesnā€™t address what people are/are not doing to keep infections continuing in spite of all the mitigations. Iā€™ve looked and havenā€™t found any data about that.

If itā€™s a matter of people not being mindful of what they touch, not washing hands and/or touching their face, then Iā€™m comfortable I can keep doing those things well.
If itā€™s people just being close to an infected person whoā€™s not coughing or sneezing, even just briefly like grocery shopping, thatā€™s going to be a lot harder to mitigate.

654

Iā€™d like to see a little more granularity.
Why is it still spreading in spite of unprecedented mitigations?
What are people not doing to get us closer to zero?

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Thereā€™s no evidence of such casual transmission with this disease.