Liberalism's Other Hitman, Luigi Mangione, beats terrorism charges

[Gaius]

Liberalism’s Other Hitman, Luigi Mangione, was in court recently and while he still faces numerous charges for murdering a man based on political beliefs,
two charges with the word “terrorism” in their ttle have been thrown out.

A judge has thrown out the top counts in Luigi Mangione’s state murder case – rejecting claims that the accused killer can be charged as a terrorist — in a huge blow to prosecutors.

In a ruling released Tuesday, Judge Gregory Carro tossed charges of murder in the first degree as an act of terrorism and murder in the second degree as a crime of terrorism against the 27-year-old Ivy League grad.

[Camp]

The back shooting coward was definitely “sending a message.”

Very bad ruling.

[FreeAndClear]

Why is it a huge blow? Does it somehow take away from premeditated murder?

ETA: ok i see it now. Doesn’t make sense why only premeditated murder as a terrorist charge

[Sknyluv]

If only he was driving a boat in international waters. We could just label him a terrorist and blow him up. Problem solved.

[biggestal99]

@Gaius

two charges with the word “terrorism” in their ttle have been thrown out.

he wasnt a terrorist. he was an assassin.

Allan

[Camp]

Second degree murder is an undercharge.

That was cold blooded premeditated cowardice.

[Camp]

[FreeAndClear]

@Camp

Second degree murder is an undercharge.

That was cold blooded premeditated cowardice.

Agreed

[FreeAndClear]

It’s just a meme

[Camp]

[SeaManatee]

And a purposefully stupid one.

[Sknyluv]

Wait. People think Mangione is a terrorist? Seriously?

[Gaius]

The judge agrees with you.
(I am honestly on the fence and will assume therefore, the judge was correct.)

Terrorism (under NY Penal Law § 490.25) requires that the crime be committed with intent to:

• Intimidate or coerce a civilian population, and/or
• Influence government policy, and/or
• Affect government conduct through murder, assassination, or kidnapping.

[WuWei]

A Guiliani judge known for being hard.

[WuWei]

@Sknyluv

Wait. People think Mangione is a terrorist? Seriously?

I think the case could be made for it.

[Gaius]

@Sknyluv

Wait. People think Mangione is a terrorist? Seriously?

Yes, like a lynchings or other attacks intended to coerce black people to stay out of certain bars, or schools or neighborhoods would be terrorism.

If Mangione’s attack was intended to make insurance companies or CEOs generally, afraid, then it would be terrorism.

[e7alr]

Assassination is a tactic of terrorism. The killing wasn’t motivated by personal gain for the killer. The target was selected for the industry he worked in, and his place within that industry. The killer felt his idea of policy and right and wrong needed to be enforced upon the individual, and greater society.

[Auto129]

This was pretty much the opposite of terrorism. The public isn’t afraid of Luigi even a little bit.

[tnt]

@Gaius

The judge agrees with you.
(I am honestly on the fence and will assume therefore, the judge was correct.)

Terrorism (under NY Penal Law § 490.25) requires that the crime be committed with intent to:

• Intimidate or coerce a civilian population, and/or
• Influence government policy, and/or
• Affect government conduct through murder, assassination, or kidnapping.

Yeah, I don’t see this murder fitting that criteria. The guy didn’t make any proclamations or have any movement, right?

[tnt]

@e7alr

Assassination is a tactic of terrorism. The killing wasn’t motivated by personal gain for the killer. The target was selected for the industry he worked in, and his place within that industry. The killer felt his idea of policy and right and wrong needed to be enforced upon the individual, and greater society.

Maybe I haven’t been paying attention, but how do we know this?