Liberal College Professor recommends Biden "Declare War" on Republicans

Guilds · 2021-11-25T23:00:35.879Z

zantax:

Video details Katie Courics admission she was censored by the WH pressure on bosses.

Censored may be a bit too strong of word to use, but I concur the corporate media has to play ball with pols to get the interviews. And that does compromise the intent and purpose of a free press. Not sure how to correct that.

One does not need to interview a pol or POTUS to report effectively. Good investigative journalism still exists…just not on the cable news/corporate media news sources.

WuWei · 2021-11-25T23:19:53.693Z

Guilds:

It is folks like you that think seat belt, and bike helmet laws are authoritarian,

Of course they are. That isn’t even debatable.

WuWei · 2021-11-25T23:20:57.788Z

Guilds:

So, you agree that the free press is the enemy of the people?

Corporate media, not “free press”.

Guilds · 2021-11-25T23:21:35.323Z

WuWei:

Of course they are. That isn’t even debatable.

I understand that is what hyper individualists, with very little regard to their fellow humans believe.

PAmoderate37 · 2021-11-25T23:24:43.879Z

How does not wearing a bike helmet affect anyone else??

Guilds · 2021-11-25T23:50:23.569Z

PAmoderate37:

How does not wearing a bike helmet affect anyone else??

That law (depending on the state) only affects kids under 18.

We do what we can to protect kids as a society. Are you arguing against that?

WuWei · 2021-11-26T00:06:55.784Z

PAmoderate37:

How does not wearing a bike helmet affect anyone else??

Or a seatbelt?

PAmoderate37 · 2021-11-26T00:08:10.041Z

Guilds:

That law (depending on the state) only affects kids under 18.

We do what we can to protect kids as a society. Are you arguing against that?

How many millions of kids grew up riding bikes without helmets?? Just because a helmet could save a few of them you should have a right to make all kids wear them?? Even if you believe you do, it’s still authoritarian

PAmoderate37 · 2021-11-26T00:10:47.085Z

WuWei:

Or a seatbelt?

I don’t care what side of the aisle you are on. Most politicians (and most who support them)are authoritarian in someway.

WuWei · 2021-11-26T00:11:49.555Z

PAmoderate37:

WuWei:

Or a seatbelt?

I don’t care what side of the aisle you are on. Most politicians (and most who support them)are authoritarian in someway.

Of course they are, they’re “lawmakers” and all laws are authoritarian.

PAmoderate37 · 2021-11-26T00:14:55.089Z

WuWei:

Of course they are, they’re “lawmakers” and all laws are authoritarian

I agree. Obviously many people do not or they wouldn’t get all upset about being called an authoritarian.

Guilds · 2021-11-26T00:16:27.497Z

PAmoderate37:

How many millions of kids grew up riding bikes without helmets?? Just because a helmet could save a few of them you should have a right to make all kids wear them?? Even if you believe you do, it’s still authoritarian

If you want to call keeping kids safe, authoritarian go for it.
I see it as common sense…like requiring fences around swimming pools.

Accidents have gone way down due to those laws. That is a good thing.

WuWei · 2021-11-26T00:16:41.115Z

PAmoderate37:

WuWei:

Of course they are, they’re “lawmakers” and all laws are authoritarian

I agree. Obviously many people do not or they wouldn’t get all upset about being called an authoritarian.

There is a tipping point in there somewhere. A point in which one crosses the line.

WuWei · 2021-11-26T00:17:50.317Z

Guilds:

If you want to call keeping kids safe, authoritarian go for it.
I see it as common sense…like requiring fences around swimming pools.

Accidents have gone way down due to those laws. That is a good thing.

If it is “common sense”, why does it have to be dictated with the threat of force?

zantax · 2021-11-26T02:55:05.927Z

Guilds:

zantax:

Video details Katie Courics admission she was censored by the WH pressure on bosses.

Censored may be a bit too strong of word to use, but I concur the corporate media has to play ball with pols to get the interviews. And that does compromise the intent and purpose of a free press. Not sure how to correct that.

One does not need to interview a pol or POTUS to report effectively. Good investigative journalism still exists…just not on the cable news/corporate media news sources.

Like I said, corporate journalism is a sham, it’s government propaganda. Find independent journalists if you really want journalism. You can frequently find them in exhile. Or sub stack.

e7alr · 2021-11-26T04:37:50.200Z

You speak of a free press, which is a pretty broad group. Some, not many today, are reporters, many more are just propagandists posing as reporters. Not being a friend does not make one an enemy. You however seem to think in zero sum. I think propagandists have no credibility and that their product should be considered suspect unless proven otherwise to my satisfaction. And with 20+years of investigative and intelligence agency experience I am very skilled at recognizing fact vs opinion and identifying falsification, misrepresentation or omission.

e7alr · 2021-11-26T04:53:37.184Z

Seat belts and helmets don’t prevent accidents. At best they “may” mitigate “potential” injury, but sometimes the person in the seat belt dies because of the belt, and the helmet doesn’t prevent the fatal head injury.

I expect a higher level of information and analysis. I don’t see that in the majority of the press.

Guilds · 2021-11-26T05:00:00.463Z

zantax:

Like I said, corporate journalism is a sham, it’s government propaganda. Find independent journalists if you really want journalism. You can frequently find them in exhile. Or sub stack.

Just as I said…

Good investigative journalism still exists…just not on the cable news/corporate media news sources.

zantax · 2021-11-26T05:01:48.902Z

Glad we can agree

Guilds · 2021-11-26T05:02:35.167Z

e7alr:

You speak of a free press, which is a pretty broad group. Some, not many today, are reporters, many more are just propagandists posing as reporters. Not being a friend does not make one an enemy. You however seem to think in zero sum. I think propagandists have no credibility and that their product should be considered suspect unless proven otherwise to my satisfaction. And with 20+years of investigative and intelligence agency experience I am very skilled at recognizing fact vs opinion and identifying falsification, misrepresentation or omission.

I use the term the (free) press in the same manner the 1st mentions it.

I am not a fan of corporate news.

What did you do for 20 years?