Liberal College Professor recommends Biden "Declare War" on Republicans

Guilds · 2021-11-25T20:10:05.346Z

e7alr:

In a free society, propagandists are no one’s friend.

So, you agree that the free press is the enemy of the people?

If not, what do you suggest, to keep the people informed??

Guilds · 2021-11-25T20:13:00.465Z

e7alr:

Says a pot to a kettle.

Nope.

I am always open to other opinions, and/or studies with empirical evidence.

I came here 17 years ago to have my beliefs challenged, and to try to understand the conservative mindset.

I do consider myself pretty well informed, but there is a lot I do not know.

zantax · 2021-11-25T20:13:48.518Z

Guilds:

e7alr:

In a free society, propagandists are no one’s friend.

So, you agree that the free press is the enemy of the people?

If not, what do you suggest, to keep the people informed??

The free press is in exhile or on sub stack and patreon, not in government captured corporate media.

Guilds · 2021-11-25T20:21:05.614Z

zantax:

The free press is in exhile or on sub stack and patreon, not in government captured corporate media.

Government captured media…interesting take.

There are good news sources…but one needs to check, and double check a variety of courses to get close to the truth.

zantax · 2021-11-25T20:24:32.674Z

Guilds:

zantax:

The free press is in exhile or on sub stack and patreon, not in government captured corporate media.

Government captured media…interesting take.

There are good news sources…but one needs to check, and double check a variety of courses to get close to the truth.

Oh you don’t believe? Have a look.

Video details Katie Courics admission she was censored by the WH pressure on bosses.

Rurudyne · 2021-11-25T21:02:11.697Z

FreeAndClear:

“Enemy of the people”

Guilds · 2021-11-25T23:00:35.879Z

zantax:

Video details Katie Courics admission she was censored by the WH pressure on bosses.

Censored may be a bit too strong of word to use, but I concur the corporate media has to play ball with pols to get the interviews. And that does compromise the intent and purpose of a free press. Not sure how to correct that.

One does not need to interview a pol or POTUS to report effectively. Good investigative journalism still exists…just not on the cable news/corporate media news sources.

WuWei · 2021-11-25T23:19:53.693Z

Guilds:

It is folks like you that think seat belt, and bike helmet laws are authoritarian,

Of course they are. That isn’t even debatable.

WuWei · 2021-11-25T23:20:57.788Z

Guilds:

So, you agree that the free press is the enemy of the people?

Corporate media, not “free press”.

Guilds · 2021-11-25T23:21:35.323Z

WuWei:

Of course they are. That isn’t even debatable.

I understand that is what hyper individualists, with very little regard to their fellow humans believe.

PAmoderate37 · 2021-11-25T23:24:43.879Z

How does not wearing a bike helmet affect anyone else??

Guilds · 2021-11-25T23:50:23.569Z

PAmoderate37:

How does not wearing a bike helmet affect anyone else??

That law (depending on the state) only affects kids under 18.

We do what we can to protect kids as a society. Are you arguing against that?

WuWei · 2021-11-26T00:06:55.784Z

PAmoderate37:

How does not wearing a bike helmet affect anyone else??

Or a seatbelt?

PAmoderate37 · 2021-11-26T00:08:10.041Z

Guilds:

That law (depending on the state) only affects kids under 18.

We do what we can to protect kids as a society. Are you arguing against that?

How many millions of kids grew up riding bikes without helmets?? Just because a helmet could save a few of them you should have a right to make all kids wear them?? Even if you believe you do, it’s still authoritarian

PAmoderate37 · 2021-11-26T00:10:47.085Z

WuWei:

Or a seatbelt?

I don’t care what side of the aisle you are on. Most politicians (and most who support them)are authoritarian in someway.

WuWei · 2021-11-26T00:11:49.555Z

PAmoderate37:

WuWei:

Or a seatbelt?

I don’t care what side of the aisle you are on. Most politicians (and most who support them)are authoritarian in someway.

Of course they are, they’re “lawmakers” and all laws are authoritarian.

PAmoderate37 · 2021-11-26T00:14:55.089Z

WuWei:

Of course they are, they’re “lawmakers” and all laws are authoritarian

I agree. Obviously many people do not or they wouldn’t get all upset about being called an authoritarian.

Guilds · 2021-11-26T00:16:27.497Z

PAmoderate37:

How many millions of kids grew up riding bikes without helmets?? Just because a helmet could save a few of them you should have a right to make all kids wear them?? Even if you believe you do, it’s still authoritarian

If you want to call keeping kids safe, authoritarian go for it.
I see it as common sense…like requiring fences around swimming pools.

Accidents have gone way down due to those laws. That is a good thing.

WuWei · 2021-11-26T00:16:41.115Z

PAmoderate37:

WuWei:

Of course they are, they’re “lawmakers” and all laws are authoritarian

I agree. Obviously many people do not or they wouldn’t get all upset about being called an authoritarian.

There is a tipping point in there somewhere. A point in which one crosses the line.

WuWei · 2021-11-26T00:17:50.317Z

Guilds:

If you want to call keeping kids safe, authoritarian go for it.
I see it as common sense…like requiring fences around swimming pools.

Accidents have gone way down due to those laws. That is a good thing.

If it is “common sense”, why does it have to be dictated with the threat of force?