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I understand the culture differences. But are you saying that Coronavirus hit Italy and other European countries faster then United States?
I’m not sure what you’re trying to say here?
I hear this talking point that left pushes here like for some magical thing that cornavirus travels faster to Europe then to America.
Those private labs you cited… those are included in the 94. It was 91 last week, 94 today. If you want a list fo the private labs that have received EUAs, I can provide it. You’ll see each of those listed on there, and they comprise (with others) the 94 total labs currently available.
The reason I brought this back up was that Rose was adamant that there were 70,000 labs int he US available for testing. There aren’t.
Why won’t you answer my question?
CDC a viable plan in place. They started working on the test in December they had to wait until Jan mid-January however for the Chinese to finally release the genetic code, and they refused to send any samples out to the WHL or to the CDC do you saw that they could develop the code themselves.
Then we ran into the FDA problem. There was a delay in the FDA giving the outside Labs approval to even run test much less start producing their own.
Once again the size and scope of our bureaucracy and the regulatory hurdles that are required prevented the CDC and NIH from being able to act in a timely manner because the FDA was strangling them.
Ask for the state and local hospitals that’s their responsibility it’s not the responsibility of the federal government to see that they are prepared that starts at the local level and the ultimate responsibility falls on the governor’s.
Unless and until the governor’s file an emergency declaration the federal government simply has no authority to come in and direct their activities.
The endless whining and droning on we get about how countries like South Korea reacted quicker is really getting old South Korea has one sixth our population in about 140th our land mass Italy is even smaller.
Well, think about it. Those comments were taken out of context. Trump was banning incoming flights from China, declaring COVD-19 a national public health emergency, and mandating quarantine procedures. He sure as hell was not treating the virus like a hoax. So obviously his comments relating to a hoax were not applicable to his views on the virus.
Here’s someone else’s spin on this:
That’s not what anyone is saying. The “weeks behind” is relative to the 100th case
Look, don’t make this more complicated than it needs to be. I stated one of my concerns is the mixed messaging, and pulled this instance as just one example. You can say it’s taken out of context or whatever… but that’s irrelevant to what Im asking.
It’s the end of February and this virus is already running through our population. There have been pretty severe recommendations offered by a variety of medical experts, and the Trump administration has taken actionable steps to curb the infection rate.
Now, you’re there on that late February night listening to this message. If you heard the President make that statement, would you think the virus is something that should be taken seriously, or not so seriously? A simple yes or no will suffice here.
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Maybe the slower results are because the FDA was slowing things down by not yet approving faster test kits. Here’s good news:
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No I most certainly did not leave the threat early.
In fact I did come back to that thread and state that I might be wrong. Then I came back and stated that when I had done some checking I in fact it heard wrong the figure is closer to 7000.
I’m almost completely deaf in one ear and I do the best I can with the other one that’s only about half there and when I’m wrong I don’t mind
I would think the democrats reactions and accusations were their new hoax vehicle to “get Trump”. I wouldn’t think anything at all about the virus based on that. They are not the same thing. You of course are free to extrapolate any meaning you wish to it. I’m sure it comforts you to claim Trump called it a hoax, action was delayed, and people are dying because of it all while claiming perfect non-partisanship.
The claim that Trump said its a hoax is a partisan hoax
The claim that action was delayed is a partisan hoax
The claim that Trump did nothing for 2 months is a partisan hoax
The claim of “needless” deaths is a partisan hoax
We haven’t even gotten to the wild assed liberal claims about the relief bill, which are entirely a partisan hoax
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So…we are rapidly catching up and will soon surpass them in testing.
No.
But let’s say I was unsure of what he meant. I’d look at his actions to date as an indication of his views. Then look at what he said and look for the proper context before i went off half cocked.
Thanks for the response… didn’t see you post any reply to me over there and haven’t checked in on that thread.
Now, where are you getting 7,000 from? Again, I provided you the page form the CDC where they’ve authorized these additional labs through EUAs, so just wondering where you’re getting this from.
Hey, I hear you on the deaf thing (pun fully intended). I’ve been basically fully deaf in one ear since 5. Have roughly 15% hearing, all real low tones, so not terribly useful. lol. My youngest is the same way, for different reasons. A lot of “huhs?” going on in my home. 
And with all of this testing our infected numbers should shoot thru the roof. That is unless our containment measures have been working, then we might see small numbers of infected than some experts predicted.
Well, except for the state of Louisiana, where theie mayor could not fight the party goers and they had their Mardi Gras, and to this day… attend packed church services. So their numbers just might shoot thru the roof
Im not referring to any after-the-fact reactions… that why I said we don’t need to argue over whether it’s a hoax or not.
You’re there in the moment in you hear that statement from the President, would you think the virus is something serious or not? I mean, the POTUS just made a joke about it… so?
no they are not.
" Now the CDC has a better kit, and 94 public health labs across the country do COVID-19 testing, says Wroblewski. But those [labs can’t possibly do all that’s needed (Opinion: Early Coronavirus Testing Failures Will Cost Lives : Shots - Health News : NPR). In normal times, their main function is regular public health surveillance — detecting more common threats such as outbreaks of measles or monitoring seasonal influenza — “but not to do diagnostic testing of the magnitude that is required in this response,” she says.
Large commercial labs like those run by companies such as Quest Diagnostics and LabCorp were given the go-ahead by the FDA late last month to start testing, too."
What is with all these rationalizations of “infections increasing through the roof” because of testing. You do realize these infections are still real, yes?
Almost 7,000 Hospital Labs plus the private labs.
Thanks. That’s all I was saying… some people hear things like that and think “No need to worry…”.
And like I said earlier, it’s not just Trump. It happened hear to with my Dem Governor. Because he delayed a state-wide lock-down, there were several liberals I know saying "meh, it’s cool… " and then going out with a dozen buddies to sled, have a cookout on the back deck, etc. They didn’t take it seriously because (among other things) the threat wasn’t communicated as being as serious as it is…
That’she whole idea, identify the infectees.
As we do we’ll see a dramatic drop in the fatality rate.
