Let's Get Some Things Straight on Abortion

[adroit]

@Optrader

Your denying me my constitutional right by refusing to make the tax payers fund it.

The types of fallacies you people can come up with is fascinating. A true gift, really.

[Oldandtired]

I already posted facts.
And I would say as a man you don’t know what it is like to walk in a woman shoes.
Also does it make you feel more like a man to laugh at women? Isn’t that a little misogynist?

[PurpnGold]

@adroit

The types of fallacies you people can come up with is fascinating. A true gift, really.

Incredible.

So when you offer a solution to reduce “murdering of innocent babies” that would require people get $500 a piece… they balk.

Did they offer a rebuttal that says to reduce gun deaths, we should give people more money for guns? Nope. That’s a stupid argument but it isn’t even their response to your proposal.

The response is simply “give me money for guns since it’s my constitutional right”

Wut?

[PurpnGold]

@Oldandtired

I already posted facts.

You posted an anecdote. Not the same.

@Oldandtired

And I would say as a man you don’t know what it is like to walk in a woman shoes.

No even pretending to. Having empathy doesn’t necessarily require me to walk in your shoes.

@Oldandtired

Also does it make you feel more like a man to laugh at women?

I didn’t even know you were a woman. So no.

Also there was nothing in your post that had anything to do with womanhood.

[Oldandtired]

I read your link.
The survey is only as good as dog crap.
People lie.
That you want to believe the crap because makes you feel better does not mean it is the truth.
Want to know the truth go to a few AA meetings. Go to a few women’s counseling sessions. Go to women’s groups at your local church and listen to what women say.
But I know you are going to believe someone with an agenda to push over real life honest to god women.

[Oldandtired]

Than why as a man are you posting anything about woman and their issues when you have no idea what it’s like to be a woman.
We don’t need men telling us what we feel.
And I have read your posts about the killing of innocent lives and I can’t find much empathy.

[PurpnGold]

@Oldandtired

Than why as a man are you posting anything about woman and their issues when you have no idea what it’s like to be a woman.

Ive been posting supporting women and their bodies. I’ve posted posing the question about why we focus so much on female birth control, rather than make birth control. Men are far more dangerous to the unwanted pregnancies, than woman. I want to focus our resources on controlling men, not woman.

You obviously haven’t read my posts.

[FreeAndClear]

@Oldandtired

Than why as a man are you posting anything about woman and their issues when you have no idea what it’s like to be a woman.
We don’t need men telling us what we feel.
And I have read your posts about the killing of innocent lives and I can’t find much empathy.

Similarly men can’t pass laws that only effect women! Who is with me

[JayJay]

@zantax

@AmusedObserver

@zantax

@Blackwolf

@zantax

The abortion issue basically boils down to, is abortion ethical or moral. I say no. Consequently all my children are alive. I count that a win in my book.

Happy to see you had the freedom to make the choice that was best for you.

So did a good friend of ours, she chose the other choice and aborted the only child she would ever be able to have because she didn’t feel ready to be a mother at the time, now she will never have her own biological child and adoption is expensive. She is not happy with the outcome.

That does not by any means indicate it was not the correct decision for her at the time.

She disagrees with you.

Every decision made has consequences.

That this is so by no means indicates we should regulate decisions simply because we may regret the decision later.

[Phaedrus]

@Guvnah

Call it that if you will. The trading is because people like you demand it, and without it 100% of abortions continue. Trading 1% to get 99% instead of getting ZERO percent?

I believe that was Jesus Christ’s position in the parable of the lost sheep. That the one lost sheep should be left to die in the wilderness so that the shepherd could stay with the 99.

Wait…that doesn’t sound right.

[Phaedrus]

@Phaedrus

Say what you will about the tenets of the Catholic Church position that all life is sacred, even a murderer’s - at least it’s an ethos.

@Guvnah

Catholic Church’s stance on the inviolability of is absolute. And all the same the Church holds that supporting legislation that mitigates (instead of fully addresses) and evil is better than doing nothing at all.

Obviously you’re not a golfer.

[Oldandtired]

That because you posts are not worth my time.
And you are not supporting women and their bodies.
You supporting women is a bunch of hooey.
You are supporting the killing of innocent life.
The only women who you support are the ones that think the way you want them to think.
Over half of women at pro life rallies are women. Woman know that the innocent life that they are carrying under their heart is a human life.
I know why men want abortions to be legal. Lets them take the easy way out and not pay the price for their fun and games.
Your wrong women are not victims of men. Woman let men use them. Woman have all the control over what happens or not happens.
Women are responsible for their own bodies and what happens to that body. No excuses. If they want to have sex with who ever they feel like at any time they feel like they need to be grown ups and make sure they are protected.
I don’t want to control men or women. Both are free to do what ever they feel like when ever they feel like without the government interfering. But they can be adults and accept the consequences of their actions and not make an innocent life pay for their deeds.
So no your not supporting all women.

[JayJay]

@FlameHeart

White male liberals are the worst kinds of people when it comes to abortion. It’s kind of ironic, since they insist on “my choice” yet this female (me) comes along and blows their argument out of the water. You’d think they’d be more respectful too, given that they are trying to respect “my choice.”

Who’s not respecting your choices?

[Oldandtired]

Go for it.
Seems to me that it is men who panic when their abortions may be taken from them. Look at all of you in here doing just that.

[Borgia_dude]

@Oldandtired

I read your link.
The survey is only as good as dog crap.
People lie.
That you want to believe the crap because makes you feel better does not mean it is the truth.
Want to know the truth go to a few AA meetings. Go to a few women’s counseling sessions. Go to women’s groups at your local church and listen to what women say.
But I know you are going to believe someone with an agenda to push over real life honest to god women.

Ok. Yes. People lie. How do you know the people you are talking to aren’t lying? If they lie on a survey, they might lie in real life, even to you. It seems like you will dismiss any and all surveys that disagree with your views.

I have talked to women who have had abortions. They seemed fine with it and lead normal, successful lives. Obviously there will be others who feel it was the wrong decision.

[Optrader]

@adroit

@Optrader

Your denying me my constitutional right by refusing to make the tax payers fund it.

The types of fallacies you people can come up with is fascinating. A true gift, really.

No fallacy whatsoever…

[SixFoot]

@Oldandtired

Sick isn’t it. That some people think the killing of innocent humans is a joke.

Why wouldn’t they? It’s no different than making fun of the kid in the wheelchair for not being able to walk.

“Haha! I was born and you weren’t you little piece of ■■■■ !”

Same mentality, same crowd that starts every argument from the position of them being better than you.

[Borgia_dude]

@Guvnah

@Phaedrus

Say what you will about the tenets of the Catholic Church position that all life is sacred, even a murderer’s - at least it’s an ethos.

Catholic Church’s stance on the inviolability of is absolute. And all the same the Church holds that supporting legislation that mitigates (instead of fully addresses) and evil is better than doing nothing at all.

So do you agree with taxpayer funding of birth control devices? That would drastically reduce abortions (see the Colorado example) and mitigating an “evil” is better than doing nothing at all.

[Optrader]

@Oldandtired

Sick isn’t it. That some people think the killing of innocent humans is a joke.

Very. The lives and rights of criminals, even violent ones, they will match to protect THEIR “rights”, but an innocent baby? KILL THEM! Everything they believe is ass-backwards.

[Guvnah]

@adroit

Is there a moral excuse to not supporting policy that would result in a significant reduction of killing millions of unborn babies?

Certain policies. Absolutely.