Lets be clear…we see you

[WuWei]

@tzu

What Red Guards? The Three Percenters? The Oath Keepers? The Proud Boys?

Antifa? BLM? BLM II?

[Smyrna]

@FloridaYankee

I agree except there aren’t nearly as many of them as you think.

K…and how many trillions did they just pass to keep them from going red and place on the backs of babies that haven’t even been born yet?

[tzu]

Antifa is not a group. It’s a set of tactics for opposing (anti) fascists (fa).

The Black Lives movement is about Black lives. Could they form some sort of cadre in the unlikely non-future where the fascists don’t take over on the vote-suspending shenanigans of Florida, Georgia and Arizona? Sure, you can have that. And six minutes later they’ll be awaiting trial for whatever rubbish charges the authoritarians in the Old Confederacy and the New West have rushed into law.

[WuWei]

@tzu

Antifa is not a group. It’s a set of tactics for opposing (anti) fascists (fa).

I’ve heard that.

@tzu

The Black Lives movement is about Black lives. Could they form some sort of cadre in the unlikely non-future where the fascists don’t take over on the vote-suspending shenanigans of Florida, Georgia and Arizona? Sure, you can have that. And six minutes later they’ll be awaiting trial for whatever rubbish charges the authoritarians in the Old Confederacy and the New West have rushed into law.

That’s quite a story.

[WuWei]

@FloridaYankee

@conan

I’m not anti goverment. I believe in limited goverment. Some goverment is necessary evil.

And there is line…in helping people versus controlling people. Marxist we see today is only interested in controlling people.

I agree except there aren’t nearly as many of them as you think.

There are far more of them than you apparently think. And where they are is probably more important.

[FloridaYankee]

@WuWei

@FloridaYankee

@conan

I’m not anti goverment. I believe in limited goverment. Some goverment is necessary evil.

And there is line…in helping people versus controlling people. Marxist we see today is only interested in controlling people.

I agree except there aren’t nearly as many of them as you think.

There are far more of them than you apparently think. And where they are is probably more important.

Millennials who would vote for Bernie Sanders. Ask them questions about the liberties in the bill of rights and you’ll find their beliefs are decidedly not socialist Marxist et al. They’re just young and stupid.

[Guntsu]

You cannot defeat Neo…he knows Kung Fu

[Jezcoe]

@Supreme_War_Pig

@zantax

@Supreme_War_Pig

@zantax

@SpacemanSpiff

@zantax

@SpacemanSpiff

With the end result of Marxism being no government I don’t know why y’all bash on it so much.

Umm because it’s killed millions and never worked out that way?

And with libertarianism we end up with, y’know, Somalia. Both philosophies only work on paper and take a real ■■■■ dive when they run up against the real world. But, yeah, what we saw from people like Mao and Stalin were NOT what Karl Marx had in mind. Those guys were nothing but power hungry and would’ve just as quickly used the Bible if that’s what would’ve gotten them where they wanted to be.

Either one could work, after we have interstellar travel. And can all go our separate ways.

Right on. Allow me to be the first to invite ya’ll to the galactic rim.

My money is on the libertarians. Perfect interstellar ideology. It is an infinite universe after all.

There is a Sci-fi miniseries or book series here, I can feel it.

There is libertarian sci fi.

A lot of it is very bad.

[WuWei]

@FloridaYankee

Millennials who would vote for Bernie Sanders. Ask them questions about the liberties in the bill of rights and you’ll find their beliefs are decidedly not socialist Marxist et al. They’re just young and stupid.

1. Religion
2. Family
3. Media
4. Education system
5. Legal system

“The philosophy of the classroom in one generation will be the philosophy of government in the next.”

[Jezcoe]

@FloridaYankee

Millennials who would vote for Bernie Sanders. Ask them questions about the liberties in the bill of rights and you’ll find their beliefs are decidedly not socialist Marxist et al. They’re just young and stupid.

It could be that they see the failure of the current system of American Capitalism to deliver the promises that it delivered to the Boomer generation.

[JayJay]

@conan

Oh look…a libs worried about what’s in my mind.

I don’t think it’s just the Libs…

[Rurudyne]

Useful idiots only have to be so until they give the tyrants what they’ve long wanted. After that they’re expendable.

[FloridaYankee]

@WuWei

@FloridaYankee

Millennials who would vote for Bernie Sanders. Ask them questions about the liberties in the bill of rights and you’ll find their beliefs are decidedly not socialist Marxist et al. They’re just young and stupid.

1. Religion
2. Family
3. Media
4. Education system
5. Legal system

“The philosophy of the classroom in one generation will be the philosophy of government in the next.”

The Disruption of America’s (Broken) Education System - The Atlantic

What Is the Quality of America’s Schools? - The Atlantic

[WuWei]

Jack Schneider has a vested interest in the status quo.

Are you satisfied with the results? Science, math?

[FloridaYankee]

@WuWei

Jack Schneider has a vested interest in the status quo.

Are you satisfied with the results? Science, math?

Like one of those articles says, people don’t actually know what the hell is going on in schools outside their own districts. Our three kids got a pretty good k-12 education in our small town.

Also, if the status quo is not that bad, it doesn’t need to be torn down, just improved.

[WuWei]

@FloridaYankee

@WuWei

Jack Schneider has a vested interest in the status quo.

Are you satisfied with the results? Science, math?

Like one of those articles says, people don’t actually know what the hell is going on in schools outside their own districts. Our three kids got a pretty good k-12 education in our small town.

Also, if the status quo is not that bad, it doesn’t need to be torn down, just improved.

I don’t disagree with your first sentence.

I think the status quo is bad, overall. All I have is media reports. But I do think COVID gave us a glimpse behind the curtain.

[FloridaYankee]

@WuWei

@FloridaYankee

@WuWei

Jack Schneider has a vested interest in the status quo.

Are you satisfied with the results? Science, math?

Like one of those articles says, people don’t actually know what the hell is going on in schools outside their own districts. Our three kids got a pretty good k-12 education in our small town.

Also, if the status quo is not that bad, it doesn’t need to be torn down, just improved.

I don’t disagree with your first sentence.

I think the status quo is bad, overall. All I have is media reports. But I do think COVID gave us a glimpse behind the curtain.

Our kids went to the same schools I went to 30 years earlier and in many aspects I was impressed by the improvements since my day, and I was very involved in every aspect of it. There were things that ticked me off and I/we made them very clear to our kids and talked about them, but overall I’m right in line with the articles in giving them a grade of B and in in some areas an A. That is my perspective, pretty happy with the experience our kids had. I read a lot of these articles and they just don’t apply to what I saw with my own two eyes, so I remain skeptical on a lot of it. People who have a vested interest in tearing it down, Betsy DeVoss for example and pundits etc. who agree with her are not going to be honest brokers of information regarding the state of education. Same with the far left who also want to change things drastically. Calmer heads need to prevail, we don’t need drastic action, we need smart action. Admittedly I’m a bit biased by our positive experiences locally.

[WuWei]

The education system. Not one school or even a region. I too was impressed by bling when we first came back. As time went on I saw through it. Top rated schools in two states.

Here’s a different take. Again a media report.

Math scores stink in America. Other countries teach it differently - and see...

This aligns with what I saw.

Another.

Global grade: How do U.S. students compare?

[JayJay]

@WuWei

@FloridaYankee

@WuWei

Jack Schneider has a vested interest in the status quo.

Are you satisfied with the results? Science, math?

Like one of those articles says, people don’t actually know what the hell is going on in schools outside their own districts. Our three kids got a pretty good k-12 education in our small town.

Also, if the status quo is not that bad, it doesn’t need to be torn down, just improved.

I don’t disagree with your first sentence.

I think the status quo is bad, overall. All I have is media reports. But I do think COVID gave us a glimpse behind the curtain.

No Child Left Behind did a lot of the damage.

Too much teaching to tests and not enough teaching.

And don’t get me started as to how much special ed is broken…the resources wasted there that help neither the special ed student nor the other students…

Too many resources going to things that don’t improve educational quality for anyone.

[FloridaYankee]

@WuWei

The education system. Not one school or even a region. I too was impressed by bling when we first came back. As time went on I saw through it. Top rated schools in two states.

Here’s a different take. Again a media report.

Math education: US scores stink because of how schools teach lessons

This aligns with what I saw.

Another.

Global grade: How do U.S. students compare? | Parenting Advice

We have problem schools. If you take out the worst schools in the most depressed big cities, we score much better according to one report I read about two years ago, pretty sure I posted it here. I think that is where a lot of our focus should be, and not just fighting about them. There are real world examples of schools like that being turned around and we need to turn to them. Sometimes all they need is the right principle, sometimes more drastic action is called for. There is no simple solution and it will take incredible political willpower to do it.