Let the total destruction of Fauci Begin... January Vaccine

Camp · 2020-04-30T22:49:53.643Z

Good find and great news.

The right people are working hard on this.

WuWei · 2020-04-30T22:55:14.352Z

Camp:

I thought it might be a typo.

Nope. It’s a word - to englishmen.

Camp · 2020-04-30T22:59:41.611Z

Have to file that one away for a choice use later.

WildRose · 2020-04-30T23:27:05.810Z

Actually those are the only two options. We either use what’s available right now or we just keep piling bodies up while awaiting the completion of enough clinical’s to decide what’s absolutely effective. If nothing is so proven, under the traditional model we just keep piling them up saying, “well, we tried”.

WildRose · 2020-04-30T23:27:50.360Z

“Two People’s separated by a common Language”-W. Churchill.

WildRose · 2020-04-30T23:33:47.903Z

Stick to what you know, this ain’t it. The revisionism is nauseating.

Why are we STILL so far behind?

Why are we STILL so far behind?

And fall is eight months after January.

Because of the panic the vaccines are getting green lighted faster than any have been in history.

Human trials have already begun and this virus wasn’t even coded until January.

We have the capacity to produce hundreds of millions of doses of vaccines every year.

The capacity to produce similar numbers of tests and the lab capacity to process them quickly doesn’t exist.
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And they still won’t be ready by the fall.

Maybe antivirals will but not vaccines.

I work in the industry. Won’t happen no matter what the panic.

It can’t.

What is it you supposedly do in the industry again?

Paul_Thomson · 2020-04-30T23:56:40.960Z

It would help to explain the unusually rapid timeline if Bill Gates already had been working on a vaccine in parallel with the Chinese working on their virus before it’s escape, and if Bill Gates and WHO and Chinese leaders have been cooperating for some time.

WildRose · 2020-04-30T23:57:31.287Z

Let’s don’t go there Paul, there’s no foundation for the conspiracy theories and to even discuss them makes us all look like crazies.

Samm · 2020-05-01T00:02:26.144Z

WildRose:

Let’s don’t go there Paul, there’s no foundation for the conspiracy theories and to even discuss them makes us all look like crazies.

Yes, but it does make for a very good plot line for a Tom Clancy book.

Paul_Thomson · 2020-05-01T00:06:52.548Z

I don’t share that opinion, but it’s one that you are entitled to also put out there. I’m just saying that an unusually fast vaccine development, especially if it is made mandatory for all when the danger group is very specific, would play into theories of a more sinister agenda. Not saying any particular theory is true at this point. Just making an observation.

WildRose · 2020-05-01T00:13:36.141Z

Nobody is going to be making it mandatory. If they do the courts will strike it down like a thunderbolt from Olympus.

Gates isn’t even connected to either of the companies already doing human trials.

Yes, it makes us all look crazy as a group to even go there when there’s absolutely no foundation for it.

We know exactly how this has been done so quickly as the regulatory and procedural hurdles that have been circumvented due to the emergency have been granted under The War Production Acts Authorities have been explained at every step of the way.

The announcement made today takes another 4-6 months off of the timeline that was laid out in March, the last time it was brought up and our experts derided me as having no clue since they had all the inside industry knowledge and expertise.

I said then that I had every faith we could be deploying it in the fall for those at highest risk and if that went well in broad distribution to the public in late Dec/Jan and was laughed at.

Well, they can eat their own words or as some have already tried, pretending they were all talking about 12-18 months from January all along.

Damn those timestamps on our posts

Nemesis · 2020-05-01T00:21:07.636Z

WildRose:

JayJay:

Lol.

Dr. Fauci put so many caveats in there it’s not even funny.

Almost none of which had to do with “the regulatory state”.

The vaccine that’s in the lead is an RNA vaccine…an experimental approach that has never produced a vaccine yet.

Fauci happens to be in love with it…that’s fine, but his bias is showing.

I put the odds at a January launch at well under 10%.

You don’t just create vaccines out of an experimental approach and expect “everything to fall into place”.

Complete nonsense. We can test every employee in the meat packing industry regularly both for the virus and for antibodies and Meat Packing Plants are sanitized constantly through the day and completely sanitized between every shift, it’s one of the cleanest working environments on the planet and not only are chemical and uv disinfectants utilized heavily everything is also cleaned with live steam as often as it can be.

Stick to whatever it is you think you know but this isn’t it.

What is your experience with the meat packing industry that you have this inside knowledge?

WildRose · 2020-05-01T00:23:36.137Z

18 months as a security supervisor at MBPXL Friona Tx, Cargill in Plainview for 6 months and Swift In Clovis NM as a relief supervisor for six months and part of my graduate work in Microbiology at three others in the state.

When we expanded to a new plant I was always the guy who setup the new security teams and plans.

Yours?

JayJay · 2020-05-01T00:32:29.613Z

WildRose:

It will be in full distribution by late Dec/Jan on the new timeline, Phase II broad deployment to Medico’s and Those at highest risk has been accelerated by at least 3-4 months on this timeline if all goes well.

Odds are it will not.

Everything doesn’t just “fall into place” for an experimental type of vaccine that’s never been shown to work before, on a category of viruses for which we have never developed a vaccine.

It’s a pipe dream and Dr. Fauci admitted as such with all his caveats.

hwyflier · 2020-05-01T00:33:15.811Z

Nemesis:

What are you chuntering on about

Vocabulary, expanded.

Nemesis · 2020-05-01T00:35:13.883Z

WildRose:

18 months as a security supervisor at MBPXL Friona Tx, Cargill in Plainview for 6 months and Swift In Clovis NM as a relief supervisor for six months and part of my graduate work in Microbiology at three others in the state.

When we expanded to a new plant I was always the guy who setup the new security teams and plans.

Yours?

Just as I thought. Thanks so much. I appreciate the reply.

WildRose · 2020-05-01T00:45:13.820Z

Right, just like the FDA will never grant emergency approval for the use of Chloroquine like you promised us a few months back based on that supposed, “Industry Insider Expertise and Knowledge”.

Just like you swore up and down there were no CVV’s because it was just too hard to do in spite of the fact we’ve been vaccinating for CV’s in the veterinary industry for decades and there are literally hundreds of them on the market right now.

What is it you do in the industry again exactly?

We’ve defied the odds in combating this outbreak from day one and just as I said from the beginning, if the need is there, we’ll meet the challenge.

We’ve already cut 6-10 months off the timeline for the quickest a new vaccine has been put into distribution and there’s no country on earth where this could have been done faster than we can do it here.

Just as I said from the beginning, the biggest hurdle isn’t the science, it’s the mass of regulation and the onerous approval process that has always been the problem.

Those barriers have been removed and the gov’t is working With “The Industry” instead of against it for a change.

noSpaces · 2020-05-01T00:46:29.430Z

Faucci must be lurking here and following your guidance.

WildRose · 2020-05-01T00:46:50.679Z

Don’t ask if you want the answer.

WildRose · 2020-05-01T00:48:24.374Z

The only problem Fauci has is he’s stuck in convention.

He’s a brilliant man in his field but as with most true experts in any field his world view is so limited he really has no understanding of the rest of the world.

He’s done from the start what I’d expect from anyone with his classic training.