Let em sleep on the floor

[SottoVoce]

Then you have no problem in my assertion that there needs to be proof when you label someone a kidnapper.

[komobu]

On this you and I are in agreement. There needs to be proof that the child belongs to the person they are releasing him to, or send the case to a magistrate.

[komobu]

Go ahead and tell this little girl how you support her being turned over to MS13.

https://twitter.com/CBPElCentro/status/1137115151608438784/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1137115151608438784&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fnoqreport.com%2F2019%2F06%2F10%2Fms-13-gang-member-uses-child-chickenpox-try-enter-u-s%2F

[Guvnah]

@SottoVoce

… there needs to be proof when you label someone a kidnapper.

Cool.

When I label someone a kidnapper, I’ll make sure I prove it.

Reply to what I actually post, not your to misreading.

[SottoVoce]

Nice. We’ve moved on to anecdotal evidence.

[SottoVoce]

I haven’t misread a thing. I was discussing kidnapping, you introduced the term “trafficker” in reply to one of my posts. Since that’s the terminology you decided to use, I replied in kind.

[Guvnah]

@komobu

On this you and I are in agreement. There needs to be proof that the child belongs to the person they are releasing him to, or send the case to a magistrate.

30% of cases are not really the parents of the children.

From the article:

“The official said that these were not cases of step-fathers or adoptive parents. ‘Those were not the case. In these cases, they are misrepresented as family members,’ the official said.”

These are people falsely claiming the kids are theirs.

30%.

(Now that the traffickers know we’re on to them, watch how the number of adoption claims will skyrocket.)

Libs know there is serious abuse of the processes at the border. Kids? Head to the front of the line. Does it look like you’ll get sent back? Claim asylum. Does all that fail? Pay coyotes to smuggle you, or swim on your own.

But oh! A few months ago they were all claiming “manufactured crisis!” Yet when you look at the actual topic of this thread, it’s woke libs trying to amplify the crisis today.

Everyone should be embarrassed to be a lib.

DNA testing reveals a THIRD of migrants faked relationship with kids

[Guvnah]

@SottoVoce

you introduced the term “trafficker” in reply to one of my posts.

And nowhere did I claim that EVERYONE is one (as your dishonest post stated.) Nor did I label any person a trafficker. Thus I bear no burden to prove that this-person or that-person is a trafficker.

Make up some more stuff. I’ll tell you why that’s also false.

[komobu]

You should be commended… Way to go. Make light of Children who are being trafficked. What a great human being you are.

[dubarry20833]

A better comparison would be: If a christian based bed maker chose to sell beds to an abortion clinic or porn studio and the employees protested based on their beliefs.

[Eclipze]

@Guvnah

@Eclipze

There’s more than a 50% profit in beds at retail. You’d be pretty surprised how cheap most furniture items are at the point of manufacturing in the supply chain compared to their average selling price to the consumer.

And the government, as a consumer, pays retail. If they don’t pay it to one supplier who decides to bow out because their woke employees declare mutiny, they’ll pay it to that supplier’s competitor.

Every commercial business is in business to make a profit. That’s the point of business.

(shrug)

Trying to understand why you replied with what you did, since that’s a given within the economic realities of the situation. Just posting just to post?

[Guvnah]

@Eclipze

Trying to understand why you replied with what you did …

I considered it important to say.

@Eclipze

… since that’s a given within the economic realities of the situation.

My comment is in regard to the overall thread, not just your statement specifically. I just used it as a springboard.

“Companies shouldn’t be profiting on the crisis at the border…”

Everything the government buys is at market costs (or a negotiated cost agreeable to the vendor, else the vendor will walk away.) Every vendor is in business, and business is about making a profit. Every toothbrush, every bed, every building and truck and bus, every DHS and ICE agent, … everything … has market costs and profit to someone.

The entirety of the Wayfair employees’ gripes is naive. People supporting them, people cheering them on, people agreeing with them … they’re equally naive.

I appreciate what you posted because it made a great springboard. Your followup question gave me cause to clarify and emphasize my point.

[H_Arendt]

@Guvnah

@Eclipze

Trying to understand why you replied with what you did …

Everything the government buys is at market costs (or a negotiated cost agreeable to the vendor, else the vendor will walk away.)

Right… like the $1000 toilet seats. What was amazing is that you followed this statement about government purchasing policies with an accusation that those you disagree with are naive!

[SottoVoce]

Then there was absolutely no point in you even mentioning “trafficker.”

[SottoVoce]

Yeah. I think I was trying to say that in a circuitous way. You said it better.

[SottoVoce]

From your article.

The official said that these were not cases of step-fathers or adoptive parents.

‘Those were not the case. In these cases, they are misrepresented as family members,’ the official said.

How could you ever prove someone was or was not a stepparent or adoptive parent?

[Guvnah]

@H_Arendt

Right… like the $1000 toilet seats.

By now I would expect that even idiots understand why a one-off item for the space program cost what it did. It has been covered and discussed so many times.

The context here is not the space program.

[Guvnah]

@SottoVoce

Then there was absolutely no point in you even mentioning “trafficker.”

Of course there was.

And so I did.

(shrug)

[Guvnah]

@SottoVoce

How could you ever prove someone was or was not a stepparent or adoptive parent?

You’re seriously asking this question.

[H_Arendt]

It wasn’t the space program. But what’s wonderful is how Trump supporters have fallen so deeply in love with exercising federal power, they have become defenders of federal gov’t purchasing.

You have to agree that is truly funny.