Left Wing Populism

Kyshia · 2018-10-16T06:23:23.026Z

Axxowiz:

Wouldn’t it have been easier to win against Trump in 2016 than 2020? Incumbents are hard to beat and Biden was put away easily by both Hillary and Obama in the 2008 democrat primaries. I mean I can see your argument if something bad happens to the economy or some horrible war starts but if things stands as it is?

Well, I was quite sure Trump was going to lose in 2016, so take any opinion I offer with a grain of salt. I thought his odds were lower than Nate Silvers 2 in 7 chance.

But I also think that some voters thought, “All of that craziness will be in his past. Being president is transformative. He’ll become the best version of himself.” Or something like that.

Instead, he’s basically stayed unchanged or gotten worse. His approval polls, if I recall correctly, were at their highest right after he was elected. That was the hope and support of independents mixed in with the crazies, I think.

Then after the endless string of dumpster fires that the country has witnessed, we’ve seen his disapproval numbers, with the except of the occasional Rasmussen outlier, remain consistently high, so much so that pollsters ought to consider creating a disgust index.

Trump’s got about 38-40 percent of true believers. Half of the country hates his guts. And the perpetual ten percent who are always on the fence? I doubt that most of them will re-up.

WildRose · 2018-10-16T06:47:11.214Z

Horse hockey and it never has been. It’s about equalizing outcomes not opportunity and it is always done at the expense of those who have succeeded for the benefit of those who don’t.

WildRose · 2018-10-16T06:48:49.876Z

his current approval numbers are now higher than when he was elected.

Kyshia · 2018-10-16T07:28:03.711Z

In short, he has never been approved of.

WildRose · 2018-10-16T07:30:02.410Z

Except that he was approved of enough to win the Presidency while Hillary and her ragged bunch of losers went home with the red ass.

Kyshia · 2018-10-16T07:30:21.992Z

There are seven days in the week.

Kyshia · 2018-10-16T09:19:59.637Z

AngraMainyu:

Not true at all. Equal opportunity is a hallmark of left wing populism

Exactly.

10 charles

biggestal99 · 2018-10-16T09:46:52.285Z

Not true.

His peak was Inauguration Day.

With a few hills and valleys in between it’s been down hill since.

Allan

biggestal99 · 2018-10-16T09:47:50.328Z

He was approved of more in certain states.

Overall Hillary was more approved of.

Allan

Call_me_Ishmael · 2018-10-16T11:03:53.310Z

Libs will continue with the “all free today” routine. They will catch some with child-like minds and the gullible.

hindsight · 2018-10-16T11:12:01.618Z

WildRose:

Leftwing populism is all based on the redistribution of wealth and destroying the rich which is what makes it so very dangerous to the stability of the civil society.

Right wing populism is based on equal opportunity rather than equal outcomes which is what makes it so very dangerous to the left.

I’m so happy that you care so much about the rich! They’re absolutely going to get DESTROYED if they get taxed at a slightly higher rate! Rich people make society stable, not the worthless plebs of society!

By the way, do you believe that the tax cut isn’t a form of wealth redistribution?

MichaelScarn · 2018-10-16T11:13:32.017Z

WildRose:

Leftwing populism is all based on the redistribution of wealth and destroying the rich which is what makes it so very dangerous to the stability of the civil society.

Right wing populism is based on equal opportunity rather than equal outcomes which is what makes it so very dangerous to the left.

Both sides are based on declining prospects for the average American worker.

Left wing populism is based on remedying this by providing single payer health care and low to no cost higher education.

Right wing populism is based on a profound misunderstanding of global economics and a tinge of good ole fashioned racism.

I truly feel bad for right wing populists because their best outcome appears to be jobs in coal mining and auto manufacturing. It would suck to be so riled up by politics only to be thrown under the bus again and again by billionaires who only use you for your vote. At least left wing populists will be able to get sick and not go bankrupt if they get what they want, even if they have to be PC about it.

WuWei · 2018-10-16T11:22:53.917Z

AngraMainyu:

Not true at all. Equal opportunity is a hallmark of left wing populism

Equal outcome.

WuWei · 2018-10-16T11:24:18.363Z

biggestal99:

He was approved of more in certain states.

Overall Hillary was more approved of.

Allan

In certain states. California.

biggestal99 · 2018-10-16T11:29:28.838Z

WuWei:

In certain states. California.

what has callie left the union?

Hillary more popular. in this United States.

Allan

SpacemanSpiff · 2018-10-16T11:52:30.755Z

Speaking of redistribution of wealth, we had a big discussion on the situation in Alaska with the oil companies. Didn’t see you chime in on that one. What’s your opinion on that?

AngraMainyu · 2018-10-16T14:23:24.170Z

Nah. I’ll admit us commies will gulag all of you worshippers of inequity, but an important component of progressivism is to equalize the playing field so there is actual competition. You might have a point about their rhetoric concerning Wallstreet vs Mainstreet bailouts.

Cratic3947 · 2018-10-16T14:27:19.887Z

If the dems lose the mid terms, I wonder if they will shed some of their old failed leadership. Bernie may take it if dems don’t take the house.

WildRose · 2018-10-19T09:14:21.601Z

Try reading what you are responding to.

his current approval numbers are now higher than when he was elected.

WildRose · 2018-10-19T09:14:59.476Z

Hillary lost.