What has been alleged is that if fewer people are exposed to the virus, fewer people will get sick and if fewer people get sick then fewer people will die.
I suppose you can chose to call that an allegation.
What has been alleged is that if fewer people are exposed to the virus, fewer people will get sick and if fewer people get sick then fewer people will die.
I suppose you can chose to call that an allegation.
Disease has real risks; flu and other diseases kill thousands each year. The question is whether there is some extraordinary risk associated with people gathering in a widely spaced group outside that requires canceling their first amendment rights to peacefully assemble, freedom of speech, and to seek redress of grievances.
Is there any evidence that anyone has ever been infected as a result of outdoor protests? Is the ban on protests just an irrational knee-jerk reaction?
Or worse yet, is it an excuse for the governor to shut up people who have opposing views?
and teh decision basically said the government can suspend civil right in a public health emergency
H_Arendt: AmusedObserver: Bill.in.PA:The death rate from the strain of coronavirus in California has been about .1%, which is similar to that of seasonal flu. Is the governor free to rescind the first amendment indefinitely based on alleged risks of disease?
“alleged” risks. Want to rethink that one?
As soon as someone states that a disease that causes as many deaths in one month as the flu causes in a year is the same as the flu, you know a lot of rethinking is needed.
And that number of deaths is under the current shelter in place restrictions. Allegedly, more people might have allegedly died with fewer restrictions. Allegedly.
Are they?
AmusedObserver: H_Arendt: AmusedObserver: Bill.in.PA:The death rate from the strain of coronavirus in California has been about .1%, which is similar to that of seasonal flu. Is the governor free to rescind the first amendment indefinitely based on alleged risks of disease?
“alleged” risks. Want to rethink that one?
As soon as someone states that a disease that causes as many deaths in one month as the flu causes in a year is the same as the flu, you know a lot of rethinking is needed.
And that number of deaths is under the current shelter in place restrictions. Allegedly, more people might have allegedly died with fewer restrictions. Allegedly.
Are they?
Balmy Weekend Presents a Challenge: New Yorkers Rushing to Parks - The New York Times
Read the article. A change in the weather, and the exhaustion of being indoors, drew more people outside YESTERDAY. That has had no effect on the virus totals prior to today.
My math is coming out at 5%.
and teh decision basically said the government can suspend civil right in a public health emergency
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I wouldn’t reference that case. That doesn’t lead anywhere good.
The fifth circuit just used it last month to block abortions.
I wouldn’t reference that case. That doesn’t lead anywhere good.
The fifth circuit just used it last month to block abortions.
Blocking abortions is an extremely good thing.
Yes, 5% is about right based on confirmed cases based on tests for presence of the virus. Recent random antibody testing shows infection rates that are 10 to 100 higher than the confirmed cases would indicate. For example here is study in New York.
The study tested the blood of 3,000 New York residents for antibodies that indicate they've had the coronavirus.
Based on the antibody tests, the death rate is about .5% in New York City.
California has about .1% fatality rate based antibody testing. That is similar to the death rate of seasonal flu. If California can suspend civil rights based on the current virus, logically they can suspend civil rights continuously based on flu and other diseases even if the coronavirus eventually disappears.
Here are links to antibody results in Los Angeles and the Bay area that show much higher infection rates:
The University of Southern California and the Los Angeles County Department of Public Health began coronavirus antibody testing earlier on California residents this month
Researchers from Stanford University shared the results of a large-scale community test, and estimate that between 2.5% and 4.2% of the population of Santa Clara County may have antibodies.
The difference between death rates in California and New York may be the result different strains of the virus:
https://www.msn.com/en-sg/news/world/coronavirus-mutations-affect-deadliness-of-strains-chinese-study-finds/ar-BB12Wac6
WuWei: AmusedObserver: H_Arendt: AmusedObserver: Bill.in.PA:The death rate from the strain of coronavirus in California has been about .1%, which is similar to that of seasonal flu. Is the governor free to rescind the first amendment indefinitely based on alleged risks of disease?
“alleged” risks. Want to rethink that one?
As soon as someone states that a disease that causes as many deaths in one month as the flu causes in a year is the same as the flu, you know a lot of rethinking is needed.
And that number of deaths is under the current shelter in place restrictions. Allegedly, more people might have allegedly died with fewer restrictions. Allegedly.
Are they?
Balmy Weekend Presents a Challenge: New Yorkers Rushing to Parks - The New York Times
Read the article. A change in the weather, and the exhaustion of being indoors, drew more people outside YESTERDAY. That has had no effect on the virus totals prior to today.
I did read it.
What does it tell you?
H_Arendt: WuWei: AmusedObserver: H_Arendt: AmusedObserver: Bill.in.PA:The death rate from the strain of coronavirus in California has been about .1%, which is similar to that of seasonal flu. Is the governor free to rescind the first amendment indefinitely based on alleged risks of disease?
“alleged” risks. Want to rethink that one?
As soon as someone states that a disease that causes as many deaths in one month as the flu causes in a year is the same as the flu, you know a lot of rethinking is needed.
And that number of deaths is under the current shelter in place restrictions. Allegedly, more people might have allegedly died with fewer restrictions. Allegedly.
Are they?
Balmy Weekend Presents a Challenge: New Yorkers Rushing to Parks - The New York Times
Read the article. A change in the weather, and the exhaustion of being indoors, drew more people outside YESTERDAY. That has had no effect on the virus totals prior to today.
I did read it.
What does it tell you?
I already stated what I told you. If you read the thread why are you asking.
I already stated what I told you. If you read the thread why are you asking.
Ok, if you say so.